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the Army Air Forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army if the game

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is rigged change the game game changer

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I occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide to Advantage if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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I need your help to get to the year

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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for kjcr the game changer and NX

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networks race Hobbs I am your host Jimmy

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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what a great week on the show tonight

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very special guest producer director

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writer journalist

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time we're going to talk about

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what drives her in creating all of this

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amazing content for our community

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where does that come from we're going to

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do all of that tonight I have worked

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solid eight for sure

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um we have hung out

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uh most of the last year uh we have done

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stuff all around the country and

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um she's amazing

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she's absolutely amazing so tonight

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she's going to share all of that with us

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here's here's the thing about Melissa

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all right now I'm going to save all of

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this for our conversation but here's the

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the craziest questions the best

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questions probably like what this is

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cool this is where we're gonna go okay

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I'm gonna get all of this out of Melissa

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tonight because we've had this

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professional relationship I've never

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out how that that brain of hers works

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and I'm gonna do all of that tonight so

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stay tuned she'll be with us at the

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bottom of the hour tomorrow night is

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fader night with open lines all night

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long and uh besides tonight with Melissa

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week coming up I will be hosting and I'm

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seeing the conscious life Expo it is

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this February 10th through the 13th at

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The Lax Hilton I've been hosting that

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uh for I guess seven years now I guess

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wow wow tickets and info conscious life

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now the presentations there are are

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amazing uh the quality of the you know

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the brightest and the best are at uh

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but for me the highlight

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is the talent show yeah man the talent

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miss that so come come and check it out

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February 10th through the 13th at The

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California then right after that uh

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April 7th through the 14th 2023 I will

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also be hosting and presenting on the

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hidden secrets seminar at Sea cruise uh

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great list of presenters and speakers

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it's what the fader knots want uh the

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thunderstorm the Eden Pure

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thunderstorm and I love smelling this

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yeah yep yep yep eating pure no filters

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the wall but uh everything else I use

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the USB because it's convenient

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especially obviously for the car kills

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germs kills viruses makes everything

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smell great and the best part

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save two hundred dollars on three that

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yeah you've been warned

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go check that out let's get to the

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breaking news on September 8th

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the FCC announced its new proposal to

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require operators to remove their

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satellites from orbit within five years

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of the end of their purpose in orbit

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currently the limit is set at 25 years

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space junk is a real problem check this

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out back in 2009 a smash up between an

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active iridium communication satellite

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and the long dead Russian Cosmos 2251

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satellite created nearly 2 000 pieces of

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space junk most of which is still in

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licensed elsewhere that seek access to

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the U.S market that are orbiting up to 2

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to be a part of the United States and

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this pretty much affects every country

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in the world now this is breaking news

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archaeologists in Prague are currently

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uncovering a Monumental building from

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the Stone Age it's a roundel it's a

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district of vinore on the outskirts of

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the city roundels are large circular

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structures from the Neolithic period

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the Egyptian pyramid and England's

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Stonehenge you should see the pictures

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this one is complete or the base of it

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it's a it's amazing go check it out

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uh now this is a trip I love reporting

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news like this because

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it's strange

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because scientists using Ultra powerful

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lasers

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have blasted cheap plastic and

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transformed it into

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Nano diamonds and in doing so confirm

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the existence of an exotic new type of

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I'm not making this up the new research

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shows that this type of diamond

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formation may be more common than

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scientists previously believed raising

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the chances that ice giants planets out

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there may sport thick layers of diamonds

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around their solid cores the experiment

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also strongly suggests that the high

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temperatures and pressures found in the

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Interiors of such tiny worlds an exotic

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state of water called super ionic water

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exotic type of matter may help generate

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the The Peculiar magnetic fields

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part which is obvious the other part

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that's cool is that maybe in the future

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this out when the ancient Egyptians led

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the time of Ramses the second Egypt

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controlled an Empire that stretched for

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modern-day Sudan all the way to Syria

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the archaeologists found dozens of

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pottery vessels including deep and

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shallow bowls bronze arrowheads as well

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as goblets chalices cooking pots storage

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jars and lamps for lighting and

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perfectly preserved by the way

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undisturbed not looted sealed off Cave

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that was right there on the beach in Tel

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if you like stranger things like I do

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well today is your lucky day because the

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buyer's house

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is for sale now it's not in Indiana I

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it's in Georgia it's in Fayetteville

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Georgia and they're listing it for three

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hundred thousand dollars it's got a

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decent chunk of property tied to it but

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it looks just like it does in the TV

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series and I don't know if it's worth

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300 Grand but you can go and check out

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the listing now and hey you know what it

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would make a great Airbnb

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I think so yeah I think you could sell

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that thing out uh breaking news uh that

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um out of Russia commercial flights in

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Russia that are direct flights to

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visas are sold out

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they are sold out through September 29th

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as of today direct flights from Moscow

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to Istanbul Armenia Azerbaijan are among

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those that are full according to all of

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the ticket aggregator sites the term

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leaving Russia air quotes the term

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leaving Russia saw a sharp spike in

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Google searches among Russians over the

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past 24 hours all of this according to

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Google Trends Google Trends also shows

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that there's a sharp rise in people

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searching for Avia sales which is a

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leading Russian Flight Sales engine the

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number has quadrupled in the last 24

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hours according to obvious sales a

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ticket aggregator one-way ticket on

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Friday out of Moscow to Istanbul are

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starting at twenty seven hundred dollars

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and twenty seven hundred and fifteen

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dollars per ticket

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before Putin's partial mobilization

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announcement the tickets cost about 300

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bucks one-way fares over the next week

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to Belgrade Tel Aviv Istanbul have

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multiplied by at least five times

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that's nuts

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well now here you go I'm going to talk

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more about this in just a minute

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a spirit bear

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has been spotted in Michigan for the

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first time it's a one in a million white

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colored bear and is considered a symbol

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of change for indigenous peoples

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Spirit bears are a type of black bear

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but instead of dark fur they have white

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or cream-colored fur and nearly white

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claws

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they are not polar bears or albinos

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their coloring is down to a different

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genetic condition there are only about

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100 Spirit bears in the entire world

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according to the North American bear

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Center most of them live in a couple of

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islands along the coast of British

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Columbia in Canada Princess Royal and

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Gribble Island how did this spirit bear

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travel 1300 miles from one of the coast

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to Michigan nobody thinks that happened

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this is a one in a million situation

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right now in Michigan and there are some

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people saying it's a sign of change

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incredible you see the photographs

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let's get the show cracking on this day

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in history 1963.

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without warning the Long Island Express

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a powerful category three hurricane

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slams into Long Island and Southern New

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England causing 600 deaths and

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devastating coastal cities and towns it

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was the most destructive storm to strike

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the region in the 20th century on this

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day in 1963. all right now here's your

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fader fact

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all right now

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I do a fader fact every night on the

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show

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and every night your mind is blown and

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I've got to go back I've got to vet this

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and I've got to research this I want to

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make sure that my fader fact is correct

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because it's a fader fact

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baked beans

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aren't baked

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you like that bet you didn't know that I

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always wondered baked beans I did that

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for Ken priest by the way I thought I'd

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do a foodie fader back tonight

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somebody had me please all right tonight

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very special guest producer writer

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director journalist Melissa Tittle is

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with us for the first time I cannot

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believe this is the first time Melissa

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is on the show I'm a little embarrassed

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by that but that's another fader fact

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fader fact

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tonight is the first time Melissa Tittle

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has been on the show we've got a lot to

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discuss with Melissa stay right there

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she'll be with us at the bottom of the

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hour tomorrow night's another fader

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night with open lines all night long and

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now it's time for me to hit this River

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rivermoonwellness.com Fade to Black

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blend

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your order today

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get it uh at our Amazon store and of

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course over on the website the links are

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below all right so

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so

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one in a million right

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and going through

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and researching the spare bear in this

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particular one in Michigan by the way

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there are no laws protecting

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a spirit bear

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right and and so

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hunting season and all of that and I

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would sit down thinking could somebody

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go

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and hunt

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all right so that that got me thinking

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even more well I mean and I know it

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seems that the world is upside down

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right now and I get that we all feel it

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it's strange we're in strange times but

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is it really

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and then and that's I try to convince

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myself that everything is going to be

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fine and and we're going to work through

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this and and I'm and then the spirit

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bear pops up and it's like well wait a

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minute

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oh man really

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and then what if right what if

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what if some crazy man I'm gonna bag me

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that spirit bear

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I'm gonna go and do I make you know and

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you know for a little bit of Fame right

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news clipping maybe get on TMZ these are

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thoughts that popped into my head and I

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thought is is this a sign that the world

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really is upside down right now that we

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have something to be concerned about and

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what the future may be I hope not and I

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hope that the spirit bear is just fine

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and and uh and and we'll work through

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no

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as crazy as this seems where every day

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you wake up and and you've got some

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insane headline

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concerns fake news

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drama heavy drama

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um world events that it's not only the

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United States and of course uh what we

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went through for the last two years

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thank goodness it's it's now at its end

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but

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as crazy as this is as worried as you

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may be at times including myself as as

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intense as it may be

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telling you right now

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it's not the Cuban Missile Crisis

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oh no

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matter how nuts

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you think it is today you're just

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comparing it to yesterday or five years

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ago 10 years ago

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you weren't around

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when the Cuban Missile Crisis jumped off

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I'm 58 I was a month old when that thing

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happened so

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uh in 1963. so uh or I might have even

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missed it

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but the point being I don't remember it

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and I'm 58 so therefore you do not

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remember it either and I don't care how

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old you are

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you got to be 80 years old to remember

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the Cuban Missile Crisis

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as tense as it is today

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just imagine

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put it in the back of your mind if the

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news today

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was

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Russian Freighters full of nuclear

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missiles

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building nuclear missile sites on an

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island a hundred miles off the coast

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of the United States

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now if that was going on today

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whoo

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I can't imagine now so oh hopefully that

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that just calms you down a bit and gives

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you some immense respect for your

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parents because if your parents went

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through that

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that tense

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tense couple of months of craziness you

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two over flights the Pentagon people

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making plans Russia making plans threats

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saber rattling nuclear Sable rattling

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right off the coast of the United States

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and the threat and what had to happen

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the standoff at Sea blocking Russian

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ships off of the coast of the United

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States

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I cannot imagine the the Knights of of

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no sleep for everybody in the country if

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not the world

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everybody on real Edge

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not a Ukrainian Edge

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not a coveted Edge

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not I lost my job Edge

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the world is going to end tonight Edge

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so think about that are we upside down

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right now no

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it's crazy we're comparing it to the the

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80s we're comparing it to the 90s

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comparing it to the teeth it's it's now

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no it's not and I had said uh two years

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ago

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I said no matter what we go through over

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the next couple years and I said this at

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the onset of everything I told everybody

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we don't have to rebuild the world this

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is not like a a world war three and

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we've got to know this is not this is

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just a thing that we're going to work

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through it sucks for some people it

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sucks for a lot of us it sucks for me

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but we're going to get through it and in

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the end we're going to be better right

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that's a different concern than nuclear

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weapons off of the coast of the United

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States and a standoff with Russia that's

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that's real upside down so again I hope

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that gives you a real appreciation for

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those that that raised us and got us

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through that and raised us a certain way

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going through that kind of tense

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situation there have been others

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there have

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but the Cuban Missile Crisis was in

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1963.

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so there you go we're not upside down

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and that spirit bear is going to be just

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fine I think it's a sign of good things

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to come all right all right this is Fade

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to Black almost like Coast to Coast this

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is Fade to Black I am your host Jimmy

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church tonight Melissa Tittle is with us

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and tomorrow night is going to be

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another fader night with open lines all

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um uh before I get to it

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Melissa and I were talking uh before the

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show we were talking about the B-52s

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and so I'm gonna throw this over to the

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chat room oh you know I kind of did a

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little disclosure I'm gonna throw this

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over to Twitter and then and in the chat

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00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:33,659
rooms that are out there I want to see

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everybody's reaction

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she came from Planet Claire

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she came from there

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she drove a Buick satellite

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faster than

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the speed of light

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one of the great lyrics of all time and

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I sung that to Melissa uh right before

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the show I did I was crooning and and I

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00:31:05,510 --> 00:31:02,940
was saying The B-52s

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saying about

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00:31:11,510 --> 00:31:09,960
ET space contact the future that's what

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00:31:15,409 --> 00:31:11,520
they were all about on those first two

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records and and it all came to me

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because you're gonna see in just a

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second Melissa's coming to us

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from the basement which is one of my

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favorite

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B-52 songs this is Fade to Black I am

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your host Jimmy Church

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tonight Melissa Tittle is with us she's

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a writer she's a director she's a

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producer she's a journalist she gets it

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done but what drives her what got her

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00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:41,460
here

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00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,720
it's going to be a great conversation

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stay right there this is Fade to Black

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on the game changer and unex networks

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I'm your host Jimmy church we'll be

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right back after this short break stay

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with us

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foreign

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Church daughter of you know who and

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you're listening to fade to black on

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jimmychurchradio.com and The Game

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[Music]

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church tonight Melissa Tittle is here

631
00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:52,740
she's here for the first time we're

632
00:36:56,450 --> 00:36:54,300
going to be talking about her career as

633
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,460
a director or producer creator of film

634
00:37:01,010 --> 00:36:58,320
and television for our community in the

635
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:01,020
world for more than a decade Melissa has

636
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:02,640
been developing and producing Motion

637
00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:04,980
Pictures and television her particular

638
00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:07,020
expertise is to create narrative stories

639
00:37:12,890 --> 00:37:10,140
around non-fiction subjects truth is

640
00:37:15,490 --> 00:37:12,900
Stranger Than Fiction currently she is

641
00:37:18,349 --> 00:37:15,500
the creative CEO for hather Studios

642
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:18,359
Hatha Studio specializes in films TV

643
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:20,880
shows in short form content for

644
00:37:26,030 --> 00:37:23,040
meditation human potential aliens

645
00:37:29,329 --> 00:37:26,040
science fiction and ancient civilization

646
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,339
and development over at Gaia TV she has

647
00:37:33,170 --> 00:37:30,960
produced and written TV shows for

648
00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:33,180
several major networks such as Chelsea

649
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:35,640
does Escaping The Profit that was a

650
00:37:40,849 --> 00:37:38,160
great series uh Ancient Aliens the

651
00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:40,859
universe and uh of course hanger one

652
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:43,260
with me she was an assistant to the head

653
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,940
of production at Paramount Studios

654
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:47,119
assigned to such features as star track

655
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:49,920
Cloverfield and Mission Impossible too

656
00:37:55,010 --> 00:37:52,320
she's a member of The Producers Guild of

657
00:37:56,750 --> 00:37:55,020
America she's a member of women in film

658
00:37:58,849 --> 00:37:56,760
and the international documentary

659
00:38:01,609 --> 00:37:58,859
Association she graduated with a degree

660
00:38:04,730 --> 00:38:01,619
in TV and film from the University of

661
00:38:06,829 --> 00:38:04,740
Wisconsin Stevens Point and her links

662
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,839
are below and throughout social media

663
00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:08,640
and I would like to welcome for the

664
00:38:15,170 --> 00:38:10,140
first time to fade to black the one and

665
00:38:17,390 --> 00:38:15,180
only Melissa Tittle I'm finally here

666
00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:17,400
you know seriously

667
00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:19,500
um it's a little embarrassing

668
00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:21,300
um that you haven't been on the show yet

669
00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:24,300
that doesn't make any sense and I was

670
00:38:28,190 --> 00:38:26,760
thinking today this is weird

671
00:38:30,410 --> 00:38:28,200
um we've known each other for a really

672
00:38:32,030 --> 00:38:30,420
long time and and we've done a lot of

673
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,040
projects a lot we've done a couple

674
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:34,800
failed projects too as well we tried

675
00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:37,440
yeah we tried and

676
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,220
um great ideas but but anyway

677
00:38:43,790 --> 00:38:43,200
I was sitting here thinking

678
00:38:47,630 --> 00:38:43,800
um

679
00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:47,640
in in the last six months Melissa we

680
00:38:52,609 --> 00:38:51,000
have uh been in Detroit

681
00:38:55,609 --> 00:38:52,619
Miami

682
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:55,619
the middle of the Mojave Desert and the

683
00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:56,110
Bahamas

684
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,500
[Laughter]

685
00:39:03,470 --> 00:39:00,720
crazy isn't it you just stop and think

686
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:03,480
you know where did the time go and and

687
00:39:09,470 --> 00:39:06,720
we got all of that done uh again about

688
00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:09,480
yeah about six months eight months yeah

689
00:39:12,770 --> 00:39:11,400
yeah pretty crazy pretty crazy how you

690
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:12,780
doing

691
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:17,040
good I'm in my I'm in my basement

692
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:19,140
because I'm on East Coast time

693
00:39:25,490 --> 00:39:22,320
everyone's asleep so uh I'm I'm locked

694
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:25,500
in the basement with all of you you get

695
00:39:31,310 --> 00:39:28,260
the First Time guest disclaimer

696
00:39:33,290 --> 00:39:31,320
um which is very strange to say but the

697
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:33,300
First Time guest disclaimer Melissa is

698
00:39:36,829 --> 00:39:35,040
it's just you and I sitting on my couch

699
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,839
having a conversation with his friends

700
00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:38,880
and where the conversation starts and

701
00:39:43,849 --> 00:39:40,500
starts where it ends it ends but we're

702
00:39:46,490 --> 00:39:43,859
gonna end as friends there you go all

703
00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:46,500
right all right it feels weird saying

704
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,700
that to you

705
00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:49,680
um as as a first-time guest but anyway

706
00:39:54,050 --> 00:39:51,540
you're here

707
00:39:56,030 --> 00:39:54,060
um it seems like I just saw you and I

708
00:39:58,430 --> 00:39:56,040
did a few weeks ago

709
00:40:01,970 --> 00:39:58,440
uh we were in the Bahamas and we had an

710
00:40:04,130 --> 00:40:01,980
amazing time and it was um I wanted to

711
00:40:06,890 --> 00:40:04,140
ask you uh was that your first time in

712
00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:08,270
um yeah actually I'd never been to the

713
00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:11,160
Bahamas before yeah yeah me too and uh

714
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:14,339
just amazing right the people wow man

715
00:40:19,849 --> 00:40:17,520
what and it's right it's so it's it's

716
00:40:23,089 --> 00:40:19,859
it's like a 20-minute flight from Miami

717
00:40:25,790 --> 00:40:23,099
right you go fit right and you land and

718
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:25,800
you're in another country completely

719
00:40:30,410 --> 00:40:28,560
different uh than the United States and

720
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,420
it it was just a wonderful experience

721
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:32,640
had a great time yeah it was awesome to

722
00:40:37,790 --> 00:40:35,040
hang out with Billy Billy Carson for

723
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:37,800
Forbidden Knowledge and uh that's his

724
00:40:42,109 --> 00:40:39,839
spot he loves that he loves the Bahamas

725
00:40:44,329 --> 00:40:42,119
and he wanted to share it with us and um

726
00:40:46,730 --> 00:40:44,339
you know I feel blessed yeah I can't

727
00:40:48,770 --> 00:40:46,740
wait to go back I'm serious I didn't

728
00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:48,780
want to leave I had to work

729
00:40:54,530 --> 00:40:51,780
um you had to work we had to uh you know

730
00:40:56,930 --> 00:40:54,540
it had to end I didn't want it to end I

731
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:56,940
had I had a few more I was tired though

732
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:01,680
I was tired we we did so much but um

733
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:04,980
um you know a break like that uh because

734
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:09,119
uh you and I uh well and Billy raw in

735
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:10,640
the middle of Productions at the moment

736
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:14,220
and we were able to just get away you

737
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:17,040
know it was a business trip for sure but

738
00:41:23,329 --> 00:41:19,680
um just to get away and not not be

739
00:41:25,970 --> 00:41:23,339
filming right and not not be working not

740
00:41:28,670 --> 00:41:25,980
be editing and uh just to go and get

741
00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:28,680
away and it was uh so much fun

742
00:41:32,210 --> 00:41:30,780
yeah

743
00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:32,220
so

744
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:39,589
I mentioned earlier

745
00:41:48,890 --> 00:41:43,380
um you ask some of the best questions

746
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:48,900
which goes back to even uh Hangar One

747
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:51,240
which we shot you know a long time ago

748
00:41:59,150 --> 00:41:56,339
and I'll just tell everybody Melissa was

749
00:42:02,690 --> 00:41:59,160
um in my ear but off

750
00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:02,700
uh off stage I I didn't see her

751
00:42:08,089 --> 00:42:06,119
and she was running the guidance through

752
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,099
this you know through shooting we shot

753
00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:10,079
man that was a long day too we shot for

754
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:13,460
like eight hours but that show yeah but

755
00:42:20,270 --> 00:42:17,760
you were guiding me and my thought

756
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:20,280
process and I remember thinking then

757
00:42:27,530 --> 00:42:23,520
it's the same way that I look at you now

758
00:42:30,530 --> 00:42:27,540
where does this come from you've got a

759
00:42:34,849 --> 00:42:30,540
different way of looking at things and

760
00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:34,859
and and and a Relentless way of of

761
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,460
looking at things and it's very tireless

762
00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:40,079
um what happened was there something

763
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:43,640
when you were a kid what happened yeah

764
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,800
did you eat glue or sniff glue what

765
00:42:50,829 --> 00:42:48,480
happened why are you so [\h__\h] weird

766
00:42:53,870 --> 00:42:50,839
that's basically what you're saying

767
00:42:57,230 --> 00:42:53,880
I mean uh what what happened was it a

768
00:42:59,210 --> 00:42:57,240
crazy uncle a Crazy Aunt your parents

769
00:43:01,309 --> 00:42:59,220
um now that just sounds like a bad setup

770
00:43:02,089 --> 00:43:01,319
for something else but no

771
00:43:05,390 --> 00:43:02,099
um

772
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:05,400
I think I've just always been a weird

773
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,400
kid like I always uh here's the thing in

774
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:10,079
my family we talked about a lot of

775
00:43:13,490 --> 00:43:10,859
things

776
00:43:15,770 --> 00:43:13,500
we talked about aliens uh from a young

777
00:43:17,329 --> 00:43:15,780
age my parents taught us about every

778
00:43:18,349 --> 00:43:17,339
single religion

779
00:43:21,290 --> 00:43:18,359
um

780
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,300
the there's just so much knowledge to

781
00:43:24,910 --> 00:43:23,040
learn all the time I constantly had

782
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:24,920
questions and and I would meet people

783
00:43:29,630 --> 00:43:27,839
who didn't think about those things and

784
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,640
I would ask those questions like well

785
00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:31,200
haven't you thought of blah blah blah

786
00:43:34,130 --> 00:43:32,700
like one of the things that at our

787
00:43:36,050 --> 00:43:34,140
dinner table if I would bring up an

788
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:36,060
opinion my dad said would say well did

789
00:43:40,490 --> 00:43:39,300
you read the other side and I said no I

790
00:43:41,630 --> 00:43:40,500
don't agree with the other side well

791
00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:41,640
he's like well then you don't have a

792
00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:43,980
case and you can't talk about it

793
00:43:52,370 --> 00:43:48,420
so that trained me to really understand

794
00:43:53,569 --> 00:43:52,380
all the sides of a certain situation a

795
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:53,579
story

796
00:43:59,569 --> 00:43:57,359
and ask weird questions because I I left

797
00:44:02,210 --> 00:43:59,579
myself out of the equation I just want

798
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:02,220
to know how do you feel about it and and

799
00:44:05,290 --> 00:44:03,720
where did you get where did you get that

800
00:44:07,849 --> 00:44:05,300
information from

801
00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:07,859
do you have a choice

802
00:44:12,410 --> 00:44:09,900
um if you

803
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:12,420
um because you have a dynamic look and a

804
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:13,800
screen presence

805
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,800
so being a host and you've got your you

806
00:44:23,150 --> 00:44:18,720
know your new series of course with Ben

807
00:44:26,809 --> 00:44:23,160
Hansen or do you prefer directing and

808
00:44:28,190 --> 00:44:26,819
and and writing and creating content

809
00:44:31,849 --> 00:44:28,200
um on on the other side of the camera

810
00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:31,859
which which do you prefer oh man that's

811
00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:33,000
a hard one

812
00:44:41,569 --> 00:44:37,740
um I have to say I um I like directing

813
00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:41,579
and writing and producing I just

814
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:43,260
there's there's two parts of me there's

815
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,640
an extrovert part of me and there's an

816
00:44:49,370 --> 00:44:47,040
introvert part of me and I love just

817
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:49,380
being Deep In The Rabbit Hole uh

818
00:44:54,589 --> 00:44:51,839
investigating something and

819
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:54,599
um and really being able to kind of pull

820
00:44:58,730 --> 00:44:57,359
the strings from from the background but

821
00:45:00,770 --> 00:44:58,740
I also enjoy being in front of the

822
00:45:02,809 --> 00:45:00,780
camera but I'd have to say it'd be

823
00:45:04,910 --> 00:45:02,819
director writing and producing yeah yeah

824
00:45:08,109 --> 00:45:04,920
you've got a presence when you direct

825
00:45:12,530 --> 00:45:08,119
and uh good things always come from that

826
00:45:14,990 --> 00:45:12,540
uh from the way that you do it's also I

827
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:15,000
think a desire for Perfection and a

828
00:45:21,050 --> 00:45:18,359
director can't go into this with half a

829
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,060
vision right you have to have the total

830
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:23,040
vision and you have to commit to that

831
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:26,460
and then in the end it's really good but

832
00:45:32,270 --> 00:45:27,839
if you

833
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:32,280
to telephone it in it's going to show up

834
00:45:37,550 --> 00:45:33,540
in the production

835
00:45:39,470 --> 00:45:37,560
yep and and honestly I I just enjoy that

836
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:39,480
it just feels like when people talk

837
00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:40,920
about meditation or they feel like

838
00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:42,180
they've been in contact with something

839
00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:45,000
you know that or uh you talk to athletes

840
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:46,440
who get into some kind of Zone it's like

841
00:45:51,290 --> 00:45:48,839
a Zone there's something else happening

842
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:51,300
in that field in that moment in time

843
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:55,200
when you're watching people on film

844
00:46:00,770 --> 00:45:58,079
uh talk to each other or or whatever's

845
00:46:03,230 --> 00:46:00,780
happening you are creating a new

846
00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:03,240
universe and you drop into that it's

847
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:04,260
amazing

848
00:46:11,809 --> 00:46:08,880
now I I look at you a few different ways

849
00:46:14,329 --> 00:46:11,819
um in in your interest

850
00:46:17,089 --> 00:46:14,339
um so let me let me ask you this there's

851
00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:17,099
deep history there's things like uh

852
00:46:22,670 --> 00:46:20,700
Ancient Ancient Egypt and ancient Sumer

853
00:46:25,010 --> 00:46:22,680
um ancient civilizations of course you

854
00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:25,020
know things like if you push it way back

855
00:46:29,569 --> 00:46:27,540
in Atlantis and and where this

856
00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:29,579
technology comes from around the world

857
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:33,300
and then we have the modern stuff today

858
00:46:37,849 --> 00:46:35,579
um megalithic structures uh around the

859
00:46:41,870 --> 00:46:37,859
world that we can look at and then

860
00:46:45,290 --> 00:46:41,880
et and contact uh where if where's your

861
00:46:47,210 --> 00:46:45,300
focus on that because you've covered

862
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,220
just about all of it and we're going to

863
00:46:51,710 --> 00:46:49,440
get into that a little bit deeper in in

864
00:46:54,370 --> 00:46:51,720
a few minutes but for you where does

865
00:46:57,170 --> 00:46:54,380
your heart lie

866
00:46:59,569 --> 00:46:57,180
where does my heart lie

867
00:47:02,870 --> 00:46:59,579
um I definitely think ancient ancient

868
00:47:06,050 --> 00:47:02,880
cultures ancient civilizations

869
00:47:08,690 --> 00:47:06,060
um the idea of Atlantis I think

870
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:08,700
that humans have not learned how to

871
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:11,760
break free of the current cycle and I

872
00:47:18,050 --> 00:47:14,760
think those answers are in the past

873
00:47:22,430 --> 00:47:18,060
to create something in the future

874
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:22,440
why do you think it's so difficult to

875
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:25,680
get the mainstream both in Academia but

876
00:47:32,329 --> 00:47:29,760
the mainstream in general uh to to have

877
00:47:36,050 --> 00:47:32,339
an interest in Atlantis and and take it

878
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:38,450
um how should they take it seriously

879
00:47:42,890 --> 00:47:40,140
what was the question I mean you can't

880
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,900
you can't take a class on Atlantis in

881
00:47:50,750 --> 00:47:43,920
school

882
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:50,760
right not yet and you're right exactly

883
00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:53,520
um I mean why is that I remember

884
00:47:59,450 --> 00:47:55,859
um I think you were there

885
00:48:01,730 --> 00:47:59,460
um on a panel I did with uh Robert shock

886
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:01,740
uh five or six years ago I know you were

887
00:48:05,390 --> 00:48:02,880
there

888
00:48:08,089 --> 00:48:05,400
um Robert said you know I'm a 10-year

889
00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:08,099
professor and so I I don't tend to give

890
00:48:13,790 --> 00:48:10,020
a crap anymore

891
00:48:16,730 --> 00:48:13,800
um but it's still difficult to say the a

892
00:48:18,770 --> 00:48:16,740
word inaccony and he goes and I'm not

893
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,780
talking about aliens it used to be

894
00:48:22,550 --> 00:48:19,920
aliens

895
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:22,560
today it's Atlantis I can't I can't

896
00:48:26,809 --> 00:48:25,380
comment on it and that's a that's a

897
00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:26,819
strange thing to come from somebody you

898
00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:28,920
know from Boston University

899
00:48:34,190 --> 00:48:31,020
um

900
00:48:36,829 --> 00:48:34,200
Atlantis is not a civilization that has

901
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:36,839
been found Atlantis is a mythical story

902
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,240
that Plato told

903
00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:42,000
um but the thing is again if I'm a

904
00:48:45,890 --> 00:48:44,040
journalist looking for patterns why have

905
00:48:48,589 --> 00:48:45,900
people been obsessed for thousands of

906
00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:48,599
years you know after Plato has said this

907
00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:51,240
story that um they want to find it they

908
00:48:54,050 --> 00:48:52,200
want to find it at the bottom of the

909
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,060
ocean they want to find remnants of it

910
00:48:58,609 --> 00:48:56,400
they want to somehow connect all these

911
00:49:02,210 --> 00:48:58,619
places all over the world as if they

912
00:49:04,430 --> 00:49:02,220
were during this time of Atlantis uh

913
00:49:06,650 --> 00:49:04,440
I think that it's somewhere in our

914
00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:06,660
psyche that it existed I don't think

915
00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:09,000
just like people when people ask me do

916
00:49:11,630 --> 00:49:10,020
you really think people are being

917
00:49:13,309 --> 00:49:11,640
abducted by aliens and I'm like I

918
00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:13,319
there's always going to be people making

919
00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:15,420
stuff up and want to go along on the

920
00:49:19,930 --> 00:49:17,220
journey

921
00:49:22,130 --> 00:49:19,940
but there's just thousands of people

922
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,140
throughout time who are obsessed with

923
00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:24,720
finding Atlantis there has to be some

924
00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:27,240
connection to it either our souls are

925
00:49:32,510 --> 00:49:28,680
connected to there's lots of theories

926
00:49:34,670 --> 00:49:32,520
about that or uh we we just we just know

927
00:49:36,829 --> 00:49:34,680
that there's something older than what

928
00:49:38,450 --> 00:49:36,839
we're being told exists that seems to be

929
00:49:41,329 --> 00:49:38,460
a narrative we keep playing in our head

930
00:49:43,849 --> 00:49:41,339
so there's either so many crazy people

931
00:49:45,410 --> 00:49:43,859
out there thinking that or this is

932
00:49:47,569 --> 00:49:45,420
something that's in our psyche and we're

933
00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:47,579
trying to figure it out and and I'm

934
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:49,859
exploring the second one because I think

935
00:49:53,870 --> 00:49:52,380
that uh that's a that's a that's a

936
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,880
really interesting thing and I think

937
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:55,680
that people like Graham Hancock and

938
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:58,079
Robert shock and Rob Duval and uh

939
00:50:01,370 --> 00:50:00,000
there's tons of other people that have

940
00:50:03,890 --> 00:50:01,380
come out and said that they've found

941
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:03,900
evidence that the pyramids some of the

942
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:06,960
other temples uh show that they've been

943
00:50:11,089 --> 00:50:08,640
there longer than what they think they

944
00:50:13,730 --> 00:50:11,099
are and then does that suggest that That

945
00:50:16,670 --> 00:50:13,740
civilization was Atlantis

946
00:50:21,290 --> 00:50:16,680
um and I think one of the the greatest

947
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:21,300
um the best evidence uh to date is go

948
00:50:28,609 --> 00:50:24,960
back Lee tappy and for a lot of

949
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,619
different reasons but the main one if we

950
00:50:32,809 --> 00:50:30,960
just go to black and white Melissa we

951
00:50:37,490 --> 00:50:32,819
just go to black and white let's just go

952
00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:37,500
to the data it's 7 000 years older than

953
00:50:44,809 --> 00:50:40,500
the accepted dating uh for Mesopotamia

954
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:44,819
in ancient Egypt and the Dogma

955
00:50:51,890 --> 00:50:48,720
um is that modern civilization started

956
00:50:54,770 --> 00:50:51,900
at 3000 BC ancient Sumer and Egypt you

957
00:50:56,569 --> 00:50:54,780
know together you know rose up uh

958
00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:56,579
seemingly out of nowhere but that was

959
00:51:01,549 --> 00:50:58,440
the start of everything there's nothing

960
00:51:05,210 --> 00:51:01,559
else earlier than that well go back to

961
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:05,220
tappy it's not only or it's 7 000 years

962
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:07,200
before

963
00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:09,480
um and who taught it's one thing to talk

964
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:13,980
about the knowledge in in in in Giza in

965
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:15,960
the Giza plateau and and how that yeah

966
00:51:23,210 --> 00:51:18,540
it's a great conversation but if you

967
00:51:25,549 --> 00:51:23,220
pack that up 7 000 years who taught them

968
00:51:28,849 --> 00:51:25,559
and I think that the timing of that is

969
00:51:31,309 --> 00:51:28,859
right back to Plato and and the

970
00:51:34,190 --> 00:51:31,319
survivors of an ancient high-tech

971
00:51:35,930 --> 00:51:34,200
civilization were teaching uh cultures

972
00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:35,940
around the world what what other

973
00:51:38,990 --> 00:51:37,740
evidence do you want to support this

974
00:51:43,309 --> 00:51:39,000
right

975
00:51:46,670 --> 00:51:43,319
about kobaki Tepe they purposely buried

976
00:51:49,130 --> 00:51:46,680
oh thank you it wasn't just under the

977
00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:49,140
rubble you know or over time they buried

978
00:51:54,770 --> 00:51:51,720
it purposely why would they bury it

979
00:51:56,809 --> 00:51:54,780
well I mean okay maybe there's the

980
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,819
cataclysm was coming that and that was

981
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:58,319
they wanted to make sure but but even

982
00:52:01,609 --> 00:51:59,760
then

983
00:52:03,970 --> 00:52:01,619
the cataclysm

984
00:52:06,530 --> 00:52:03,980
could have been an earthquake

985
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,540
yes yes yeah let me let me interact

986
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:08,640
because I want you I want you to

987
00:52:14,510 --> 00:52:10,319
continue that thought

988
00:52:17,569 --> 00:52:14,520
the knowledge of a cosmic event

989
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:17,579
how does a civilization 12 000 years ago

990
00:52:22,430 --> 00:52:19,740
have the knowledge of something Cosmic

991
00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:22,440
arriving how does an ancient

992
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,319
civilization that is forging for seeds

993
00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:28,319
in the dirt wearing animal skins have

994
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:32,760
knowledge of uh of a flood have

995
00:52:36,829 --> 00:52:35,280
knowledge of impending disaster have

996
00:52:40,849 --> 00:52:36,839
knowledge at the end of the world

997
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:40,859
whatever it is how did that happen right

998
00:52:44,569 --> 00:52:43,200
yeah I I mean those are all good

999
00:52:46,609 --> 00:52:44,579
questions and nobody really has the

1000
00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:46,619
answers there's just a lot of

1001
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:51,900
really great uh educational guesses but

1002
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:53,579
um

1003
00:52:58,250 --> 00:52:56,400
I think that this is the obsession with

1004
00:53:01,549 --> 00:52:58,260
most of these ancient civilizers or

1005
00:53:02,210 --> 00:53:01,559
these ancient locations these temples

1006
00:53:04,970 --> 00:53:02,220
um

1007
00:53:07,609 --> 00:53:04,980
uh structures that are left behind where

1008
00:53:10,430 --> 00:53:07,619
they're monitoring the sky so it's

1009
00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:10,440
almost as if they remembered quite some

1010
00:53:14,690 --> 00:53:12,540
time ago that something had happened and

1011
00:53:17,210 --> 00:53:14,700
they want to make sure and they want to

1012
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:17,220
know where they are in the cycle of when

1013
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:18,900
things should be happening when things

1014
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:20,160
shouldn't be happening we hear about

1015
00:53:24,109 --> 00:53:21,599
this all the time right that there's

1016
00:53:25,849 --> 00:53:24,119
there's a just like how we are talk

1017
00:53:28,609 --> 00:53:25,859
about the hero's journey

1018
00:53:31,490 --> 00:53:28,619
there's like this this idea that we we

1019
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:31,500
go through that also as a planet every

1020
00:53:35,870 --> 00:53:33,420
26 000 years or something like that

1021
00:53:38,510 --> 00:53:35,880
right we go through all the zodiacs and

1022
00:53:41,569 --> 00:53:38,520
they have mapped out specifically within

1023
00:53:44,270 --> 00:53:41,579
that structure when we might

1024
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,280
have an end to the current structure of

1025
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:46,559
humanity and when we start over and

1026
00:53:50,030 --> 00:53:48,000
that's talked about across the world

1027
00:53:52,490 --> 00:53:50,040
that's not just one ancient civilization

1028
00:53:55,490 --> 00:53:52,500
so uh I think that that knowledge is

1029
00:53:57,710 --> 00:53:55,500
passed down and then they uh are keep

1030
00:54:00,770 --> 00:53:57,720
they keep searching for it and then what

1031
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,780
I think people just forget why they are

1032
00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:02,640
connected to something

1033
00:54:07,309 --> 00:54:05,819
right it is what happens is people

1034
00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:07,319
forget why they're doing things we do

1035
00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:09,000
this all the time in our culture

1036
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,220
and then they just they just do pieces

1037
00:54:14,690 --> 00:54:13,200
of it they just do pieces of it and then

1038
00:54:16,430 --> 00:54:14,700
they pass that down and then no one

1039
00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:16,440
really knows where the root of it came

1040
00:54:20,990 --> 00:54:18,780
from and they're just spouting off this

1041
00:54:22,430 --> 00:54:21,000
one piece and that's why I feel like

1042
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:22,440
there's so many researchers out there

1043
00:54:26,030 --> 00:54:23,760
trying to put all the pieces together

1044
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:26,040
and figure out wait what is the original

1045
00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:31,440
story yeah right here here here's the

1046
00:54:36,849 --> 00:54:33,780
rub for me

1047
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:36,859
um I I I'm saying this as fact

1048
00:54:44,089 --> 00:54:40,319
there are collections out there in the

1049
00:54:46,609 --> 00:54:44,099
world and you can say the Vatican you

1050
00:54:49,609 --> 00:54:46,619
know private hands museums governments

1051
00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:49,619
State actors what have you

1052
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:52,920
um the the Knights Templar and and the

1053
00:55:00,170 --> 00:54:56,640
Freemasons that are in possession of

1054
00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:00,180
ancient texts that tell the story right

1055
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:03,300
and and and that's it but that stuff is

1056
00:55:09,170 --> 00:55:06,000
never going to uh get to the surface

1057
00:55:11,210 --> 00:55:09,180
because it changes history too much you

1058
00:55:14,809 --> 00:55:11,220
know and I think that they are very well

1059
00:55:16,910 --> 00:55:14,819
aware of a lot of things but they're not

1060
00:55:20,510 --> 00:55:16,920
talking about it look at the mind you

1061
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:20,520
know when you when uh when when Spain

1062
00:55:26,990 --> 00:55:23,760
arrived they did everything that they

1063
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:27,000
could to destroy the written record

1064
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:30,720
right four codexes four survived some

1065
00:55:34,010 --> 00:55:32,819
say there's a fifth one right and

1066
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:34,020
they're in different parts of the world

1067
00:55:40,329 --> 00:55:35,760
that's it

1068
00:55:43,490 --> 00:55:40,339
now is is that the facts only four

1069
00:55:47,390 --> 00:55:43,500
codexes survived or was there more and

1070
00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:47,400
that goes to Alexandria right how much

1071
00:55:53,089 --> 00:55:49,500
did that actually survive maybe all of

1072
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:53,099
it the story is none of it is there and

1073
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:55,440
we can go through every culture and say

1074
00:55:59,569 --> 00:55:58,079
the same Vatican you remember like they

1075
00:56:02,450 --> 00:55:59,579
destroyed those

1076
00:56:06,290 --> 00:56:02,460
um codexes because they found evidence

1077
00:56:09,290 --> 00:56:06,300
that the uh the P these Savage people

1078
00:56:11,089 --> 00:56:09,300
had a similar creation story to their

1079
00:56:12,410 --> 00:56:11,099
Adam and Eve and in the garden and all

1080
00:56:13,790 --> 00:56:12,420
that kind of stuff but a little bit

1081
00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:13,800
different characters are a little bit

1082
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:15,900
different but the but the story was the

1083
00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:19,200
same and they couldn't imagine that this

1084
00:56:25,010 --> 00:56:22,319
Savage group of people would have some

1085
00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:25,020
kind of god-like interaction and Adam

1086
00:56:28,670 --> 00:56:27,180
and Eve and the same the same Garden the

1087
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:28,680
story of the Bible they just couldn't

1088
00:56:32,270 --> 00:56:30,000
they can handle that so they wanted to

1089
00:56:35,210 --> 00:56:32,280
make sure they destroyed it and and kept

1090
00:56:36,890 --> 00:56:35,220
them at a level to of suppression so

1091
00:56:38,750 --> 00:56:36,900
that they were the only ones that could

1092
00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:38,760
be you know carrying the understanding

1093
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:39,720
of God

1094
00:56:46,790 --> 00:56:42,000
when we talk about the procession and

1095
00:56:48,589 --> 00:56:46,800
and 26 000 years and the way that the

1096
00:56:51,710 --> 00:56:48,599
Mayan calendar worked another calendar

1097
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:51,720
and other uh cultures it wasn't just the

1098
00:56:58,370 --> 00:56:54,240
Mayans of course but to know about a

1099
00:57:01,309 --> 00:56:58,380
wobble that is 26 000 when we have to

1100
00:57:06,049 --> 00:57:01,319
put all of that into context

1101
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,059
um Cleopatra Jesus right Jesus right if

1102
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,920
we just go with year zero that's only

1103
00:57:14,809 --> 00:57:10,559
two thousand years and we've only had

1104
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:14,819
300 years of of real science right maybe

1105
00:57:21,650 --> 00:57:17,520
400 you know Newton and Copernicus

1106
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:21,660
that's it but somehow these ancient

1107
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:25,680
cultures had knowledge of a wobble of

1108
00:57:33,890 --> 00:57:30,480
the earth and a 26 000 year cycle how

1109
00:57:36,109 --> 00:57:33,900
the only way is if that knowledge was

1110
00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:36,119
handed down they didn't learn it from

1111
00:57:40,849 --> 00:57:38,520
the beginning of the 26 000 year cycle

1112
00:57:44,930 --> 00:57:40,859
you know looking at eight of fractions

1113
00:57:46,609 --> 00:57:44,940
of a degree no no they were taught that

1114
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:46,619
weren't they there had to have been a

1115
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:49,200
culture that was here before

1116
00:57:53,450 --> 00:57:50,400
yeah

1117
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:53,460
I agree I mean

1118
00:57:57,650 --> 00:57:55,920
I think a lot of people sit and they

1119
00:57:59,870 --> 00:57:57,660
stare at the stars and they think okay

1120
00:58:02,270 --> 00:57:59,880
if if they did figure it out from this

1121
00:58:04,370 --> 00:58:02,280
perspective laying on their back looking

1122
00:58:07,370 --> 00:58:04,380
at the stars they did they could they

1123
00:58:09,290 --> 00:58:07,380
had no other perspective I I it's really

1124
00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:09,300
hard for scientists to figure out how

1125
00:58:13,849 --> 00:58:10,500
they did that

1126
00:58:17,450 --> 00:58:13,859
how did they map this all out it's

1127
00:58:19,069 --> 00:58:17,460
definitely possible but it um

1128
00:58:20,809 --> 00:58:19,079
it's almost like if that was the case

1129
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,819
that was their only goal there was

1130
00:58:24,910 --> 00:58:22,559
nothing else anyone was doing except for

1131
00:58:27,530 --> 00:58:24,920
constantly mapping out the sky

1132
00:58:29,210 --> 00:58:27,540
generation after Generation generation

1133
00:58:30,410 --> 00:58:29,220
after generation and you have to you

1134
00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:30,420
have to think

1135
00:58:33,530 --> 00:58:32,040
I mean I get it we want to know where we

1136
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:33,540
are in the universe but but then again

1137
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:34,880
why

1138
00:58:41,930 --> 00:58:37,440
could you imagine

1139
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:41,940
um if if you follow what uh uh

1140
00:58:47,930 --> 00:58:44,880
Anthropologist will try to convince you

1141
00:58:50,270 --> 00:58:47,940
well man it's simple they put a stick in

1142
00:58:53,450 --> 00:58:50,280
the dirt and they measured the Shadow

1143
00:58:57,170 --> 00:58:53,460
and and aligned it to the star and they

1144
00:58:59,870 --> 00:58:57,180
did that all day long every day

1145
00:59:02,210 --> 00:58:59,880
for thousands of years it's like what

1146
00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:02,220
they did what how did that how did they

1147
00:59:08,089 --> 00:59:05,220
do it are you sure you're you're

1148
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:08,099
believing what you're saying but there

1149
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:09,119
had to have been something else

1150
00:59:12,829 --> 00:59:10,799
something much more advanced I don't

1151
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:12,839
know what it is I don't know if it came

1152
00:59:17,690 --> 00:59:15,359
from space uh I don't know if it was a

1153
00:59:20,930 --> 00:59:17,700
culture that was here on Earth but you

1154
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:20,940
don't uh just put a stick in the dirt

1155
00:59:27,170 --> 00:59:24,240
and chalking off the movement of a

1156
00:59:30,170 --> 00:59:27,180
shadow and and the alignment of the

1157
00:59:31,490 --> 00:59:30,180
Stars every single day for generation

1158
00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:31,500
and then

1159
00:59:35,809 --> 00:59:33,780
Melissa then you got to teach your

1160
00:59:37,309 --> 00:59:35,819
grandson okay this is what you're gonna

1161
00:59:40,849 --> 00:59:37,319
do

1162
00:59:43,549 --> 00:59:40,859
right every day you wake up and you mark

1163
00:59:46,730 --> 00:59:43,559
the dirt

1164
00:59:52,670 --> 00:59:46,740
every day every day and then you're

1165
00:59:55,730 --> 00:59:54,289
and then that grandson was like you know

1166
00:59:57,289 --> 00:59:55,740
what I think I'm gonna build some Stones

1167
00:59:59,089 --> 00:59:57,299
I think I'm gonna have the stones there

1168
01:00:00,530 --> 00:59:59,099
already so that I don't have to get up

1169
01:00:03,370 --> 01:00:00,540
early in the morning or late at night

1170
01:00:04,930 --> 01:00:03,380
Mark and mark it

1171
01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:04,940
it

1172
01:00:11,630 --> 01:00:07,980
just doesn't work for me there had to

1173
01:00:14,329 --> 01:00:11,640
have been uh something else now

1174
01:00:16,730 --> 01:00:14,339
um and here's the other thing when we go

1175
01:00:18,829 --> 01:00:16,740
back and contemplate you know something

1176
01:00:22,010 --> 01:00:18,839
like Atlantis or a high-tech

1177
01:00:27,049 --> 01:00:22,020
civilization what about the the Sumerian

1178
01:00:29,809 --> 01:00:27,059
and the Anunnaki E.T sitchin uh version

1179
01:00:31,849 --> 01:00:29,819
of all of this what where where do you

1180
01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:31,859
stand

1181
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:33,599
um

1182
01:00:37,789 --> 01:00:36,240
hmm

1183
01:00:40,130 --> 01:00:37,799
um I think there's definitely some truth

1184
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:40,140
to

1185
01:00:47,170 --> 01:00:42,960
um what sitchin is saying I think

1186
01:00:50,809 --> 01:00:49,730
understandings of a planet blowing up or

1187
01:00:53,089 --> 01:00:50,819
something happening and then you

1188
01:00:56,329 --> 01:00:53,099
definitely have the the meteor belt

1189
01:00:59,809 --> 01:00:56,339
between Mars and Jupiter

1190
01:01:01,789 --> 01:00:59,819
could that have happened possibly

1191
01:01:04,010 --> 01:01:01,799
um

1192
01:01:05,390 --> 01:01:04,020
I think that

1193
01:01:07,490 --> 01:01:05,400
um

1194
01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:07,500
I think that that what what the Anunnaki

1195
01:01:13,130 --> 01:01:09,839
does is it gets into aliens really fast

1196
01:01:16,670 --> 01:01:13,140
this is also another a word that if you

1197
01:01:18,410 --> 01:01:16,680
are a archaeologist or Anthropologist

1198
01:01:20,809 --> 01:01:18,420
and you're in this field and you're

1199
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:20,819
trying to decipher these cuneiforms say

1200
01:01:25,250 --> 01:01:22,799
I think that you get into a dangerous

1201
01:01:26,990 --> 01:01:25,260
territory when you start deciphering

1202
01:01:28,670 --> 01:01:27,000
them and you're like okay but now are we

1203
01:01:30,530 --> 01:01:28,680
talking about off planet or are we

1204
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:30,540
talking about a far away land in the

1205
01:01:35,390 --> 01:01:32,880
mountains that they came down from right

1206
01:01:37,130 --> 01:01:35,400
there's so I think that the Anunnaki

1207
01:01:39,049 --> 01:01:37,140
just like the word Atlantis gets into

1208
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:39,059
that category of like

1209
01:01:44,510 --> 01:01:42,480
things that we can't prove but that

1210
01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:44,520
could be true right

1211
01:01:50,569 --> 01:01:47,760
like the Anunnaki history of the

1212
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:50,579
universe is very similar in a way to

1213
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:53,280
Star Wars right we have this we have

1214
01:01:59,030 --> 01:01:56,640
this kind of a matriarchal uh Powerhouse

1215
01:02:01,130 --> 01:01:59,040
and we have this male Powerhouse and

1216
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:01,140
there's a big fight and then the world's

1217
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,599
divided and blood spilled and planets

1218
01:02:08,270 --> 01:02:05,280
blow up and all sorts of stuff right

1219
01:02:10,910 --> 01:02:08,280
it's the heroes it's the hero's journey

1220
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:10,920
right that's Joseph Campbell right there

1221
01:02:16,609 --> 01:02:14,400
in Sumerian Tablets 200

1222
01:02:18,530 --> 01:02:16,619
000 years ago let's take our break right

1223
01:02:21,410 --> 01:02:18,540
here let's get that in our guest tonight

1224
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:21,420
is Melissa Tittle writer producer

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01:02:26,510 --> 01:02:24,000
director what else would you what what

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01:02:28,210 --> 01:02:26,520
do you want me to add to that journalist

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podcaster Cosmic Cantina

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we'll be right back after this short

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01:02:51,420 --> 01:02:37,230
break this is Fade to Black stay with us

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01:07:47,390 --> 01:07:44,809
Church our guest tonight Melissa tittle

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01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:47,400
writer producer director

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01:07:55,730 --> 01:07:52,319
and uh and and host and host

1331
01:07:58,430 --> 01:07:55,740
uh here's here's the thing uh Melissa we

1332
01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:58,440
were just talking uh before the break uh

1333
01:08:05,049 --> 01:08:00,240
you know about ancient cultures and

1334
01:08:07,329 --> 01:08:05,059
things and and race Hobbs uh jumped into

1335
01:08:13,010 --> 01:08:07,339
uh the chat room

1336
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:13,020
and and and and said this he says uh you

1337
01:08:16,849 --> 01:08:14,880
have to add contacts they had time to do

1338
01:08:18,829 --> 01:08:16,859
all of this very important work even if

1339
01:08:22,010 --> 01:08:18,839
you believe some other civilization told

1340
01:08:24,590 --> 01:08:22,020
them how to do it someone had to do the

1341
01:08:27,169 --> 01:08:24,600
work first and I think that that's a

1342
01:08:31,550 --> 01:08:27,179
very very important Point

1343
01:08:36,110 --> 01:08:31,560
um and but my answer to that uh comment

1344
01:08:38,269 --> 01:08:36,120
and I want yours is that you can't the

1345
01:08:40,669 --> 01:08:38,279
problem that I have

1346
01:08:43,010 --> 01:08:40,679
um with ancient Egypt putting Gobekli

1347
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:43,020
Tepe off to the side the problem that I

1348
01:08:49,070 --> 01:08:46,319
have with ancient Egypt is that

1349
01:08:50,890 --> 01:08:49,080
um egyptologists

1350
01:08:56,289 --> 01:08:50,900
um want us to believe

1351
01:08:58,329 --> 01:08:56,299
that uh nomadic tribes in the desert

1352
01:09:01,070 --> 01:08:58,339
went from

1353
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:01,080
uh living in the desert wearing animal

1354
01:09:08,209 --> 01:09:06,239
skins to 3000 BC and immediately

1355
01:09:12,729 --> 01:09:08,219
developing

1356
01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:12,739
writing Rhodes geometry

1357
01:09:18,849 --> 01:09:14,400
engineering

1358
01:09:22,970 --> 01:09:18,859
science math law

1359
01:09:26,450 --> 01:09:22,980
organization crops agriculture

1360
01:09:29,689 --> 01:09:26,460
all at the same time and then over the

1361
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:29,699
next 200 years our country is 200 years

1362
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:31,920
old the United States right over the

1363
01:09:37,249 --> 01:09:35,040
next 200 years they went from

1364
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:37,259
animal skins

1365
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:39,600
to building the Great Pyramid and not

1366
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:42,000
only that they built three pyramids at

1367
01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:45,839
the Giza plateau and another 45 pyramids

1368
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:49,520
in the same Hundred Year span

1369
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:52,560
wait a minute what was the population of

1370
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:55,679
of Egypt at that time and and racist

1371
01:10:00,890 --> 01:09:59,040
comment which is you had to have uh

1372
01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:00,900
people to do the work first right you

1373
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:02,400
had to have people what was the

1374
01:10:08,510 --> 01:10:05,520
population of Ancient Egypt at 3000 BC

1375
01:10:11,689 --> 01:10:08,520
right a few hundred thousand people so

1376
01:10:14,090 --> 01:10:11,699
every single person in the country was

1377
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:14,100
building pyramids who who was doing

1378
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:17,520
everything else right and and and that's

1379
01:10:22,370 --> 01:10:19,920
that's the important thing that we have

1380
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:22,380
to take a look at here how did that

1381
01:10:26,530 --> 01:10:25,440
happen it it just doesn't make any sense

1382
01:10:31,570 --> 01:10:26,540
does it

1383
01:10:36,830 --> 01:10:34,130
it's it's also the whole like I mean

1384
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:36,840
think of it this way uh I'm not saying

1385
01:10:40,430 --> 01:10:38,880
that I I definitely believe this is

1386
01:10:41,689 --> 01:10:40,440
happening but a lot of people come on

1387
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:41,699
and talk about the secret space program

1388
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:44,880
there is something to say about that not

1389
01:10:49,850 --> 01:10:47,040
that I'm definitely saying that I

1390
01:10:51,229 --> 01:10:49,860
believe in it but I am saying that we

1391
01:10:53,090 --> 01:10:51,239
went from

1392
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:53,100
this kind of Technology shooting

1393
01:10:59,630 --> 01:10:54,960
somebody up in the move and moon in a

1394
01:11:02,350 --> 01:10:59,640
tin can and then we kind we we we kind

1395
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:02,360
of progressed further but not that much

1396
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:04,800
considering what we did and where we

1397
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:06,480
should be right now right so that's

1398
01:11:12,649 --> 01:11:08,880
where that whole concept comes in of

1399
01:11:15,169 --> 01:11:12,659
like well we're making Oxygen on Mars as

1400
01:11:17,149 --> 01:11:15,179
of last week but could that have been

1401
01:11:18,890 --> 01:11:17,159
happening a long time ago considering we

1402
01:11:20,870 --> 01:11:18,900
went for this huge Space Race and then

1403
01:11:22,490 --> 01:11:20,880
we kind of pulled back

1404
01:11:23,390 --> 01:11:22,500
could there be something happening it's

1405
01:11:25,610 --> 01:11:23,400
the same kind of thing when you think

1406
01:11:27,410 --> 01:11:25,620
about ancient Egypt and you think

1407
01:11:29,930 --> 01:11:27,420
um you're right it just kind of

1408
01:11:32,570 --> 01:11:29,940
I would say more not so much ancient

1409
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:32,580
Egypt as I would say ancient Sumer uh

1410
01:11:35,810 --> 01:11:34,320
just kind of popped up overnight and of

1411
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,820
course what they talked about in their

1412
01:11:39,169 --> 01:11:37,679
stories is you know some Gods came down

1413
01:11:41,090 --> 01:11:39,179
and they said this is this is

1414
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:41,100
agriculture this is how it works here's

1415
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,719
your civilization here's your political

1416
01:11:46,910 --> 01:11:44,880
system and your religious system we're

1417
01:11:48,530 --> 01:11:46,920
just going to install it now and you're

1418
01:11:52,370 --> 01:11:48,540
going to live your life

1419
01:11:55,790 --> 01:11:52,380
when we when we when we consider these

1420
01:11:56,590 --> 01:11:55,800
things and these ideas

1421
01:12:00,649 --> 01:11:56,600
um

1422
01:12:02,570 --> 01:12:00,659
we we're we're taught uh it's it's

1423
01:12:06,050 --> 01:12:02,580
almost hypocritical we're taught two

1424
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:06,060
different things one uh that this just

1425
01:12:11,450 --> 01:12:09,360
happened overnight and then when that

1426
01:12:14,689 --> 01:12:11,460
argument or that that point starts to

1427
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:14,699
get debated then the answer to that from

1428
01:12:20,510 --> 01:12:17,280
The Establishment is you're not giving

1429
01:12:22,490 --> 01:12:20,520
ancient man enough credit well wait a

1430
01:12:24,649 --> 01:12:22,500
minute that that's not that's not an

1431
01:12:26,990 --> 01:12:24,659
answer you're just making a statement

1432
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:27,000
where are the facts to back up a

1433
01:12:33,470 --> 01:12:29,760
statement like that because Gobekli Tepe

1434
01:12:35,689 --> 01:12:33,480
was 7 000 years before and now what kind

1435
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:35,699
of credit do we need to give Ancient Man

1436
01:12:41,090 --> 01:12:38,880
for something like that it doesn't make

1437
01:12:43,130 --> 01:12:41,100
any sense yeah I mean you're right I

1438
01:12:44,990 --> 01:12:43,140
mean you know you know I produced the

1439
01:12:46,610 --> 01:12:45,000
first five seasons of Ancient Aliens you

1440
01:12:49,250 --> 01:12:46,620
can you don't have to talk about aliens

1441
01:12:50,990 --> 01:12:49,260
at all you can you can you can leave

1442
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:51,000
that conversation out and you can still

1443
01:12:54,890 --> 01:12:52,400
be

1444
01:12:57,709 --> 01:12:54,900
dumbfounded on what they've accomplished

1445
01:12:59,570 --> 01:12:57,719
and what they knew about the universe so

1446
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:59,580
I think that that's what it happens

1447
01:13:04,430 --> 01:13:01,280
people are like no no no no

1448
01:13:07,550 --> 01:13:04,440
it's not these beans coming down it's

1449
01:13:08,990 --> 01:13:07,560
it's completely just you know you you

1450
01:13:10,850 --> 01:13:09,000
have to give them credit okay I'm giving

1451
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:10,860
them credit I'm saying this still

1452
01:13:16,010 --> 01:13:13,199
doesn't make sense

1453
01:13:17,090 --> 01:13:16,020
exactly right that's exactly right and

1454
01:13:19,669 --> 01:13:17,100
then

1455
01:13:22,669 --> 01:13:19,679
um if we move forward to today because

1456
01:13:24,169 --> 01:13:22,679
you've been um at this for for such a

1457
01:13:27,950 --> 01:13:24,179
long time

1458
01:13:31,729 --> 01:13:27,960
um did you expect uh the revelations to

1459
01:13:34,850 --> 01:13:31,739
happen uh with uh things like UFO

1460
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:34,860
turning into UAP from an official

1461
01:13:40,850 --> 01:13:38,159
context coming out of Washington DC and

1462
01:13:42,590 --> 01:13:40,860
everything that has happened over the

1463
01:13:44,450 --> 01:13:42,600
last three or four years did you expect

1464
01:13:46,189 --> 01:13:44,460
these kind of developments we all hope

1465
01:13:47,450 --> 01:13:46,199
for them but did you think that this was

1466
01:13:50,330 --> 01:13:47,460
really going to happen

1467
01:13:51,770 --> 01:13:50,340
nope I didn't and I didn't trust it when

1468
01:13:53,149 --> 01:13:51,780
it came out and I think a lot of people

1469
01:13:54,830 --> 01:13:53,159
felt that way they're like okay well

1470
01:13:56,209 --> 01:13:54,840
what's the agenda and I don't know if we

1471
01:13:57,530 --> 01:13:56,219
really know what the agenda is right I

1472
01:14:00,110 --> 01:13:57,540
mean I do a lot of shows about this

1473
01:14:02,030 --> 01:14:00,120
right is it is uh what's the agenda of

1474
01:14:03,290 --> 01:14:02,040
the aliens if there's aliens what are

1475
01:14:05,390 --> 01:14:03,300
their agenda are they here to help us

1476
01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:05,400
they're here to kill us like what what's

1477
01:14:09,290 --> 01:14:07,140
going on what's what's the government's

1478
01:14:12,169 --> 01:14:09,300
agenda by announcing it finally that hey

1479
01:14:13,729 --> 01:14:12,179
I think we we have decided they're

1480
01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:13,739
aliens

1481
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:18,000
um I think that uh what I think might be

1482
01:14:21,530 --> 01:14:19,920
happening and this is I'm totally

1483
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:21,540
Jumping the Shark because I don't

1484
01:14:25,729 --> 01:14:23,520
usually do this I usually try to stay in

1485
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:25,739
the neutral ground because I don't want

1486
01:14:35,090 --> 01:14:26,400
to

1487
01:14:37,330 --> 01:14:35,100
government and the media are really

1488
01:14:39,770 --> 01:14:37,340
the government keeps dropping okay wait

1489
01:14:41,630 --> 01:14:39,780
we think this is a more real than we

1490
01:14:43,130 --> 01:14:41,640
thought it is right like like every week

1491
01:14:44,270 --> 01:14:43,140
There's Something New it's like building

1492
01:14:46,970 --> 01:14:44,280
up

1493
01:14:50,450 --> 01:14:46,980
and I think that the only reason why

1494
01:14:52,970 --> 01:14:50,460
they would do that is possibly to fund

1495
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:52,980
space force right to create this agenda

1496
01:14:55,850 --> 01:14:54,239
around something that they want to build

1497
01:14:58,910 --> 01:14:55,860
or

1498
01:15:01,070 --> 01:14:58,920
something is about to happen they don't

1499
01:15:05,209 --> 01:15:01,080
know when but they need to prepare the

1500
01:15:06,410 --> 01:15:05,219
public and that I had I didn't think

1501
01:15:08,510 --> 01:15:06,420
that that would happen in my lifetime

1502
01:15:10,250 --> 01:15:08,520
but I think maybe in my lifetime we

1503
01:15:13,930 --> 01:15:10,260
might have some kind of contact

1504
01:15:21,169 --> 01:15:13,940
it could be a little bit of both

1505
01:15:22,030 --> 01:15:21,179
um what I when when they started to talk

1506
01:15:28,250 --> 01:15:22,040
about

1507
01:15:30,890 --> 01:15:28,260
years ago three years ago that this is

1508
01:15:32,810 --> 01:15:30,900
you know the uh our our military needs

1509
01:15:35,090 --> 01:15:32,820
to be protected the men and women of the

1510
01:15:38,450 --> 01:15:35,100
military are are being threatened by

1511
01:15:40,850 --> 01:15:38,460
this and uh uh just with impunity

1512
01:15:43,850 --> 01:15:40,860
invading our airspace and our our

1513
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:43,860
training uh exercises and the threat to

1514
01:15:48,590 --> 01:15:46,320
the military and I thought this this

1515
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:48,600
threat narrative well that plays into

1516
01:15:54,830 --> 01:15:52,800
funding space force right okay I I I get

1517
01:15:58,910 --> 01:15:54,840
that part of it and then there's the

1518
01:16:01,729 --> 01:15:58,920
other side that seems to be a drip drip

1519
01:16:03,890 --> 01:16:01,739
right getting everybody acclimated to

1520
01:16:05,810 --> 01:16:03,900
some type of contact so I think it could

1521
01:16:07,130 --> 01:16:05,820
be a little bit of both

1522
01:16:10,910 --> 01:16:07,140
yeah

1523
01:16:13,870 --> 01:16:10,920
no I agree I agree but but I I I wasn't

1524
01:16:16,250 --> 01:16:13,880
expecting the amount of attention

1525
01:16:19,729 --> 01:16:16,260
focused you know now they have official

1526
01:16:22,729 --> 01:16:19,739
title UAP like this like it's it's a

1527
01:16:24,590 --> 01:16:22,739
real it's it's really happening instead

1528
01:16:26,750 --> 01:16:24,600
of just a bunch of people behind the

1529
01:16:28,910 --> 01:16:26,760
scenes getting together and saying we

1530
01:16:30,410 --> 01:16:28,920
want answers we want disclosure now it's

1531
01:16:33,229 --> 01:16:30,420
like a whole conversation happening in

1532
01:16:37,550 --> 01:16:33,239
Washington for real when

1533
01:16:41,390 --> 01:16:37,560
um it's so funny how how times change

1534
01:16:44,990 --> 01:16:41,400
um but if if you look back to like the

1535
01:16:48,110 --> 01:16:45,000
team that was put together for a Hangar

1536
01:16:50,030 --> 01:16:48,120
One For example there's plenty of of

1537
01:16:51,530 --> 01:16:50,040
stuff going on at the same time you just

1538
01:16:53,630 --> 01:16:51,540
mentioned of course your work with uh

1539
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:53,640
Ancient Aliens but there were there were

1540
01:16:59,570 --> 01:16:55,679
but we were on our own

1541
01:17:01,790 --> 01:16:59,580
right we were this was our mission and

1542
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:01,800
we were trying to do this and and so

1543
01:17:06,050 --> 01:17:03,360
many others I'm talking about our

1544
01:17:09,890 --> 01:17:06,060
community right and pushing this forward

1545
01:17:11,930 --> 01:17:09,900
and and we were left uh to our own

1546
01:17:12,649 --> 01:17:11,940
research and we weren't supported and

1547
01:17:15,229 --> 01:17:12,659
then

1548
01:17:18,350 --> 01:17:15,239
suddenly you know three four years later

1549
01:17:21,709 --> 01:17:18,360
boom it's a it's a whole different thing

1550
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:21,719
uh should we trust the government right

1551
01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:24,810
now is the government our UFO buddy

1552
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:28,080
[Laughter]

1553
01:17:31,310 --> 01:17:30,000
Bros are your buddy either I mean

1554
01:17:33,169 --> 01:17:31,320
there's like a whole there's like oh

1555
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:33,179
there's like a whole

1556
01:17:36,649 --> 01:17:35,040
like a whole weirdness happening with

1557
01:17:39,229 --> 01:17:36,659
the whole UFO stuff you know what I mean

1558
01:17:42,169 --> 01:17:39,239
it's like people are just glamming onto

1559
01:17:43,850 --> 01:17:42,179
whatever's popular but

1560
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:43,860
I think

1561
01:17:48,530 --> 01:17:45,360
um

1562
01:17:50,450 --> 01:17:48,540
I did a talk at Roswell about this and

1563
01:17:52,250 --> 01:17:50,460
that is uh about agendas because you

1564
01:17:54,290 --> 01:17:52,260
know the question is like you said is

1565
01:17:55,729 --> 01:17:54,300
government you know should we trust them

1566
01:17:57,050 --> 01:17:55,739
you know are aliens real like these

1567
01:17:59,390 --> 01:17:57,060
these are really polarizing questions

1568
01:18:01,850 --> 01:17:59,400
but but I always think like well what's

1569
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:01,860
the agenda of everyone involved in the

1570
01:18:07,550 --> 01:18:04,320
alien conversation and and not that I

1571
01:18:08,570 --> 01:18:07,560
have the answer but but I would say I

1572
01:18:10,910 --> 01:18:08,580
wouldn't really trust anybody

1573
01:18:12,350 --> 01:18:10,920
everybody's got a little agenda in this

1574
01:18:14,090 --> 01:18:12,360
whole this whole game of something that

1575
01:18:15,530 --> 01:18:14,100
doesn't exist and you know what

1576
01:18:18,169 --> 01:18:15,540
religion

1577
01:18:19,970 --> 01:18:18,179
started off the same way somebody was

1578
01:18:22,669 --> 01:18:19,980
able to talk to something that they

1579
01:18:25,490 --> 01:18:22,679
couldn't see and people got excited

1580
01:18:28,430 --> 01:18:25,500
about that because it it expands the

1581
01:18:30,830 --> 01:18:28,440
human potential The Human Experience and

1582
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:30,840
they want to be around that right so

1583
01:18:35,570 --> 01:18:33,600
this whole idea of being in touch with

1584
01:18:37,790 --> 01:18:35,580
something interdimensionally has been a

1585
01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:37,800
game for a long time and you have to

1586
01:18:41,450 --> 01:18:38,880
think of

1587
01:18:43,250 --> 01:18:41,460
all right who what who's who's the one

1588
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:43,260
what agenda does a person have that has

1589
01:18:45,470 --> 01:18:44,640
all the contacts and doing all the

1590
01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:45,480
things

1591
01:18:49,550 --> 01:18:47,760
the other end of the spectrum is I do

1592
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:49,560
think something for thousands of years

1593
01:18:52,850 --> 01:18:51,360
has been have been happening to humans

1594
01:18:54,649 --> 01:18:52,860
and they have been in touch with

1595
01:18:58,010 --> 01:18:54,659
something I mean that's on Cave walls

1596
01:18:59,570 --> 01:18:58,020
from 40 000 years ago so I I think that

1597
01:19:02,450 --> 01:18:59,580
there's two things happening there are

1598
01:19:04,729 --> 01:19:02,460
experiences happening who you can trust

1599
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,739
I personally I wouldn't trust anyone I

1600
01:19:09,530 --> 01:19:06,719
would do your own homework I'd find your

1601
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:09,540
own patterns and and um I mean doesn't

1602
01:19:13,610 --> 01:19:11,280
Buddha have a saying don't believe

1603
01:19:16,729 --> 01:19:13,620
anyone even if it comes for me unless

1604
01:19:20,990 --> 01:19:18,890
I mean I think that that's that's the

1605
01:19:23,149 --> 01:19:21,000
way to look at the whole field yeah is

1606
01:19:25,070 --> 01:19:23,159
that don't don't say okay you're wrong

1607
01:19:27,970 --> 01:19:25,080
or this person is definitely telling the

1608
01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:27,980
truth I think step back and figure out

1609
01:19:32,450 --> 01:19:30,480
what would the agenda be if that person

1610
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:32,460
was telling the truth and then go from

1611
01:19:39,850 --> 01:19:34,020
there

1612
01:19:44,229 --> 01:19:39,860
um before we move on do you believe that

1613
01:19:48,770 --> 01:19:44,239
uh our military and our government

1614
01:19:51,709 --> 01:19:48,780
is tracking with satellites objects in

1615
01:19:54,530 --> 01:19:51,719
space and they know they know exactly

1616
01:19:56,090 --> 01:19:54,540
what is going on as you and I talk right

1617
01:19:58,370 --> 01:19:56,100
now that this is something that they've

1618
01:20:00,890 --> 01:19:58,380
been aware of for a long time uh they

1619
01:20:03,709 --> 01:20:00,900
they're not telling us that but we've

1620
01:20:05,570 --> 01:20:03,719
got too much technology in orbit you

1621
01:20:07,550 --> 01:20:05,580
know and pointing in the other direction

1622
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:07,560
and monitoring do you think that they

1623
01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:09,840
know exactly what's happening

1624
01:20:14,209 --> 01:20:12,480
exactly I don't think exactly they know

1625
01:20:15,290 --> 01:20:14,219
what's happening I I don't think so and

1626
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,300
you remember

1627
01:20:19,310 --> 01:20:17,280
the government that's like five people

1628
01:20:20,689 --> 01:20:19,320
right that no that might know exactly

1629
01:20:23,149 --> 01:20:20,699
what's happening the rest of the people

1630
01:20:24,890 --> 01:20:23,159
are working in the government they're

1631
01:20:26,209 --> 01:20:24,900
they're part of the military complex

1632
01:20:28,669 --> 01:20:26,219
they mean that I don't think there's

1633
01:20:31,370 --> 01:20:28,679
only a couple people that have knowledge

1634
01:20:32,510 --> 01:20:31,380
to what we're talking about but but I

1635
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:32,520
still think

1636
01:20:36,890 --> 01:20:34,800
that although they know probably way

1637
01:20:40,430 --> 01:20:36,900
more than we do I don't think they know

1638
01:20:41,930 --> 01:20:40,440
exactly what to do and what it is and

1639
01:20:43,370 --> 01:20:41,940
that's where the threat narrative comes

1640
01:20:47,149 --> 01:20:43,380
in play

1641
01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:47,159
and uh go ahead go ahead

1642
01:20:49,790 --> 01:20:48,960
oh and I was just going to say that you

1643
01:20:51,950 --> 01:20:49,800
know one of the things that I'm

1644
01:20:55,729 --> 01:20:51,960
passionate about is is that I think that

1645
01:20:56,990 --> 01:20:55,739
the conversation of aliens of of the

1646
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:57,000
existence of something else more

1647
01:21:03,050 --> 01:20:58,880
powerful than us actually

1648
01:21:05,689 --> 01:21:03,060
allows our human existence to

1649
01:21:07,610 --> 01:21:05,699
to grow to to figure out what it is what

1650
01:21:09,950 --> 01:21:07,620
it means to be human I mean we have a

1651
01:21:11,209 --> 01:21:09,960
lot of problems here on Earth we it

1652
01:21:12,890 --> 01:21:11,219
doesn't matter what country you belong

1653
01:21:14,810 --> 01:21:12,900
to everybody's there's lots of

1654
01:21:18,050 --> 01:21:14,820
infighting there's lots of political

1655
01:21:21,169 --> 01:21:18,060
upheaval uh belief systems you know the

1656
01:21:24,290 --> 01:21:21,179
list goes on right but something out

1657
01:21:25,790 --> 01:21:24,300
there creates awareness of what it means

1658
01:21:27,770 --> 01:21:25,800
to be actually human and I think that's

1659
01:21:29,570 --> 01:21:27,780
a very important conversation to have

1660
01:21:32,810 --> 01:21:29,580
and I think

1661
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:32,820
um I think the more that this becomes a

1662
01:21:35,689 --> 01:21:34,320
thing where people are like oh wait this

1663
01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:35,699
might really happen we might be making

1664
01:21:39,890 --> 01:21:38,159
contact I think we're actually going to

1665
01:21:43,250 --> 01:21:39,900
see a shift in humanity

1666
01:21:45,169 --> 01:21:43,260
have you had your own sighting

1667
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:45,179
you know what I haven't isn't that crazy

1668
01:21:48,050 --> 01:21:46,560
yeah

1669
01:21:53,890 --> 01:21:48,060
it is crazy

1670
01:21:58,669 --> 01:21:53,900
and now maybe I'm an alien yes

1671
01:22:02,750 --> 01:21:58,679
what's my agenda some people say but

1672
01:22:04,910 --> 01:22:02,760
um uh would that change things for you

1673
01:22:06,890 --> 01:22:04,920
I mean would it push would it push

1674
01:22:08,270 --> 01:22:06,900
things further

1675
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:08,280
um

1676
01:22:18,210 --> 01:22:14,000
in it though

1677
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:18,220
how much further can you go I feel

1678
01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:20,159
[Music]

1679
01:22:26,270 --> 01:22:25,130
have the experience that people have

1680
01:22:27,790 --> 01:22:26,280
when they

1681
01:22:30,169 --> 01:22:27,800
had their their

1682
01:22:31,729 --> 01:22:30,179
amazed they're enlightened but then

1683
01:22:32,930 --> 01:22:31,739
they're sort of terrified you know all

1684
01:22:34,729 --> 01:22:32,940
the things that I've interviewed people

1685
01:22:36,290 --> 01:22:34,739
about and they walk me through what it

1686
01:22:37,970 --> 01:22:36,300
feels like in the process and all that

1687
01:22:40,250 --> 01:22:37,980
kind of stuff but

1688
01:22:43,130 --> 01:22:40,260
um but but I I don't think I feel like

1689
01:22:47,390 --> 01:22:43,140
the reason I haven't is because I

1690
01:22:49,250 --> 01:22:47,400
already know or feel in my soul that

1691
01:22:50,930 --> 01:22:49,260
that they they're they are real that

1692
01:22:52,430 --> 01:22:50,940
there are interdimensional beings and

1693
01:22:54,890 --> 01:22:52,440
they are in contact with us and there's

1694
01:22:55,850 --> 01:22:54,900
some good ones and there's some bad ones

1695
01:22:58,130 --> 01:22:55,860
um

1696
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:58,140
and I think I'm on point for what my

1697
01:23:02,270 --> 01:23:00,000
mission's supposed to be which is to

1698
01:23:04,370 --> 01:23:02,280
just get the data out there and the

1699
01:23:06,649 --> 01:23:04,380
patterns and and have people talk about

1700
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,659
it it's not for me to find the truth

1701
01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:08,159
because I don't believe there is one

1702
01:23:12,770 --> 01:23:10,140
truth there's just all these pieces of

1703
01:23:14,450 --> 01:23:12,780
truths that we put together to figure

1704
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:14,460
out what the story is

1705
01:23:19,610 --> 01:23:16,800
you know we missed an opportunity

1706
01:23:21,290 --> 01:23:19,620
um we can't turn back time but uh you

1707
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,300
and I were just in the middle of the

1708
01:23:25,490 --> 01:23:22,800
Mojave Desert

1709
01:23:26,689 --> 01:23:25,500
I had a completely haunted location by

1710
01:23:29,689 --> 01:23:26,699
the way so

1711
01:23:31,970 --> 01:23:29,699
sure I lost my voice

1712
01:23:33,229 --> 01:23:31,980
that was trippy by the way wait can I

1713
01:23:36,590 --> 01:23:33,239
just can I interrupt for a second so

1714
01:23:38,030 --> 01:23:36,600
we're in the middle of the desert and um

1715
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:38,040
we're filming something we can't talk

1716
01:23:42,830 --> 01:23:39,600
about and

1717
01:23:47,090 --> 01:23:42,840
um and uh top secret

1718
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:47,100
I lose my voice the the day I get into

1719
01:23:51,050 --> 01:23:49,679
this location like literally gone never

1720
01:23:54,169 --> 01:23:51,060
happened to me before

1721
01:23:56,930 --> 01:23:54,179
I'm telling I'm telling Jimmy he says uh

1722
01:23:59,810 --> 01:23:56,940
oh just you know Jolly Ranchers and I'm

1723
01:24:01,310 --> 01:23:59,820
like I did I did I did I can't there's

1724
01:24:02,810 --> 01:24:01,320
just air coming out of my mouth like it

1725
01:24:04,910 --> 01:24:02,820
doesn't even hurt it doesn't even hurt

1726
01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:04,920
it's just gone right

1727
01:24:08,930 --> 01:24:07,320
and that's all it was and then the

1728
01:24:11,570 --> 01:24:08,940
minute I left that location like

1729
01:24:13,370 --> 01:24:11,580
literally drove away

1730
01:24:15,470 --> 01:24:13,380
out of town

1731
01:24:21,729 --> 01:24:15,480
I got my voice back so there's something

1732
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:25,189
the day of um what an amazing location

1733
01:24:29,330 --> 01:24:26,880
but here's the thing we missed an

1734
01:24:31,250 --> 01:24:29,340
opportunity oh by the way so this is the

1735
01:24:34,570 --> 01:24:31,260
deal so

1736
01:24:38,209 --> 01:24:34,580
um I show up on location and we had uh

1737
01:24:40,610 --> 01:24:38,219
we shot Drone footage of of me driving

1738
01:24:42,890 --> 01:24:40,620
my Jeep and it's a pretty big set a

1739
01:24:44,750 --> 01:24:42,900
pretty pretty pretty cool production

1740
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:44,760
that that you had going on out there

1741
01:24:50,030 --> 01:24:47,280
anyway so we had all this stuff going on

1742
01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:50,040
and I walk in I'm doing a live stream or

1743
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:52,560
doing something and I go there's Melissa

1744
01:25:03,189 --> 01:24:55,440
she turns around goes I lost my voice

1745
01:25:07,380 --> 01:25:07,310
when this comes out everybody it's all

1746
01:25:09,970 --> 01:25:07,390
um

1747
01:25:12,649 --> 01:25:09,980
[Laughter]

1748
01:25:14,510 --> 01:25:12,659
I'm gonna have a man speak my voice

1749
01:25:17,169 --> 01:25:14,520
gonna be like one of those old Asian

1750
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:17,179
films that's a great idea

1751
01:25:23,870 --> 01:25:20,880
your voice oh my God I knew your voice

1752
01:25:26,350 --> 01:25:23,880
and I'll talk to myself I think that's a

1753
01:25:30,590 --> 01:25:28,430
that was so crazy I felt like something

1754
01:25:32,510 --> 01:25:30,600
was choking they like did not want me to

1755
01:25:33,649 --> 01:25:32,520
speak in that one location it was it was

1756
01:25:35,169 --> 01:25:33,659
so weird and it was such a beautiful

1757
01:25:38,630 --> 01:25:35,179
location

1758
01:25:41,149 --> 01:25:38,640
amazing amazing it something like that

1759
01:25:43,310 --> 01:25:41,159
in the middle of the desert where you

1760
01:25:46,250 --> 01:25:43,320
could stand uh there you know because

1761
01:25:48,110 --> 01:25:46,260
there were buildings uh and and stuff

1762
01:25:50,270 --> 01:25:48,120
that was but anyway stand in the middle

1763
01:25:53,950 --> 01:25:50,280
of it and just look around

1764
01:25:56,750 --> 01:25:53,960
and see nothing nothing

1765
01:25:58,430 --> 01:25:56,760
it was so cool just abandoned buildings

1766
01:26:00,530 --> 01:25:58,440
yeah just about in the middle of the

1767
01:26:03,970 --> 01:26:00,540
desert so here's the thing this is what

1768
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:03,980
we missed though we should have

1769
01:26:09,709 --> 01:26:07,440
just brought out the night vision set up

1770
01:26:11,930 --> 01:26:09,719
chairs and Crank That Thing till one in

1771
01:26:13,370 --> 01:26:11,940
the morning you would have seen

1772
01:26:16,370 --> 01:26:13,380
something

1773
01:26:20,450 --> 01:26:16,380
everybody and we had all the cameras

1774
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:20,460
yeah we missed it I feel like whatever

1775
01:26:25,010 --> 01:26:22,800
was there did not want me there so I was

1776
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:25,020
happy to believe

1777
01:26:32,030 --> 01:26:28,800
you know uh okay all right I'm gonna get

1778
01:26:33,709 --> 01:26:32,040
back to uh uh the subject but but this

1779
01:26:36,890 --> 01:26:33,719
is what I tripped on

1780
01:26:38,750 --> 01:26:36,900
okay so we were like three or three a

1781
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:38,760
couple of Miles off the main road right

1782
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:39,840
okay

1783
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:42,800
in the middle of the desert but between

1784
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:47,040
the the set location and the main there

1785
01:26:53,090 --> 01:26:50,880
was that that mobile home that was like

1786
01:26:55,070 --> 01:26:53,100
from the 1950s it was pretty nice you

1787
01:26:58,250 --> 01:26:55,080
remember it was like turquoise and white

1788
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,260
stripes often way off out there it

1789
01:27:04,669 --> 01:27:00,239
looked pretty nice you know a little

1790
01:27:08,209 --> 01:27:04,679
Oasis but you drive by that and it's way

1791
01:27:10,810 --> 01:27:08,219
out there right in in the cactus who

1792
01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:10,820
lives there

1793
01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:13,760
that's

1794
01:27:20,330 --> 01:27:17,760
just bizarre and it looks really nice

1795
01:27:23,570 --> 01:27:20,340
but who lives there you're not ordering

1796
01:27:26,330 --> 01:27:23,580
a pizza you know it's very like a

1797
01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:26,340
hipster like hipster Paradise or

1798
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:28,320
something yeah yeah it was actually

1799
01:27:33,709 --> 01:27:30,719
pretty nice but again in the middle of

1800
01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:33,719
nowhere yeah we missed that opportunity

1801
01:27:38,930 --> 01:27:35,760
um okay so I wanted to and we're going

1802
01:27:40,370 --> 01:27:38,940
to talk about this more after the Break

1803
01:27:41,870 --> 01:27:40,380
um I want to talk about the Nazca

1804
01:27:44,990 --> 01:27:41,880
mummies for a minute

1805
01:27:49,010 --> 01:27:45,000
and ask mummies

1806
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:49,020
um when that uh blew up and took off uh

1807
01:27:54,110 --> 01:27:51,120
has been what three years now probably

1808
01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:54,120
three four years three years

1809
01:27:58,610 --> 01:27:56,400
um you yeah like four it's been almost

1810
01:28:03,290 --> 01:27:58,620
four years because I think it was 2018.

1811
01:28:08,090 --> 01:28:03,300
yeah 2018. and now I want everybody to

1812
01:28:11,209 --> 01:28:08,100
understand uh Melissa flew down to Peru

1813
01:28:14,090 --> 01:28:11,219
um and you got to see the Nazca mummies

1814
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:14,100
uh up close and personal uh when you

1815
01:28:20,450 --> 01:28:16,560
arrive there

1816
01:28:21,950 --> 01:28:20,460
um and and I I remember the the video of

1817
01:28:25,790 --> 01:28:21,960
you

1818
01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:25,800
um standing in the examination room or

1819
01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:27,600
whatever you want to call it oh what

1820
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:29,040
went through your mind

1821
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:31,199
well

1822
01:28:34,970 --> 01:28:32,880
I think like everybody who saw those

1823
01:28:36,350 --> 01:28:34,980
pictures in the video

1824
01:28:37,790 --> 01:28:36,360
um you know I wasn't the first person to

1825
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:37,800
go down there

1826
01:28:44,689 --> 01:28:42,480
um uh I was a second so uh I thought God

1827
01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:44,699
this looks so fake I mean it was like

1828
01:28:49,149 --> 01:28:47,280
white powder on it like oh man it's like

1829
01:28:52,430 --> 01:28:49,159
paper mache you know

1830
01:28:53,149 --> 01:28:52,440
really okay yeah

1831
01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:53,159
um

1832
01:28:58,430 --> 01:28:55,440
I mean that's what I thought when I when

1833
01:29:00,530 --> 01:28:58,440
I was on my way there so now I'm in the

1834
01:29:03,070 --> 01:29:00,540
examination room they bring out the

1835
01:29:05,930 --> 01:29:03,080
bigger body which is Maria

1836
01:29:08,629 --> 01:29:05,940
uh and

1837
01:29:10,910 --> 01:29:08,639
everyone had like gloves and masks and

1838
01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:10,920
stuff like that I I asked if I could

1839
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,960
touch it you know with the gloves on of

1840
01:29:17,930 --> 01:29:14,880
course and

1841
01:29:21,649 --> 01:29:17,940
um it felt like skin it was it was

1842
01:29:24,410 --> 01:29:21,659
actual dried jerky skin and I was like

1843
01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:24,420
oh

1844
01:29:31,010 --> 01:29:27,360
but even when I saw it like when when

1845
01:29:32,750 --> 01:29:31,020
I'm in uh looking at it I'm still

1846
01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:32,760
thinking there has to be something about

1847
01:29:37,570 --> 01:29:35,280
this thing that's fake because it's it's

1848
01:29:39,649 --> 01:29:37,580
just I mean the the Torso and everything

1849
01:29:41,930 --> 01:29:39,659
looks human

1850
01:29:43,850 --> 01:29:41,940
uh but the head's slightly bigger the

1851
01:29:46,490 --> 01:29:43,860
eye sockets are much bigger there's

1852
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:46,500
three fingers and three toes exactly and

1853
01:29:50,990 --> 01:29:47,840
they're huge right

1854
01:29:52,610 --> 01:29:51,000
yeah and the flanges in our bones are

1855
01:29:54,110 --> 01:29:52,620
very small if you were to take an x-ray

1856
01:29:56,930 --> 01:29:54,120
of your hand they're very small these

1857
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:56,940
are huge bones which means that you know

1858
01:29:59,570 --> 01:29:58,560
wrapped around with skin and muscle and

1859
01:30:01,310 --> 01:29:59,580
everything they would just have been

1860
01:30:05,629 --> 01:30:01,320
massive so

1861
01:30:07,850 --> 01:30:05,639
um but then when I touched it I was

1862
01:30:09,229 --> 01:30:07,860
that's when I was like okay

1863
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:09,239
there's definitely something going on

1864
01:30:15,470 --> 01:30:11,520
with these bodies like I I don't

1865
01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:15,480
I have to try to stay neutral and and be

1866
01:30:19,910 --> 01:30:17,520
part of the investigation but but that

1867
01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:19,920
was the Momo and I'm like okay

1868
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:22,080
this there's something biological about

1869
01:30:27,530 --> 01:30:25,440
this body for sure and um

1870
01:30:28,910 --> 01:30:27,540
it was just it was just fascinating and

1871
01:30:31,129 --> 01:30:28,920
I think like one of the things that guy

1872
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:31,139
really wanted to do was they wanted to

1873
01:30:36,410 --> 01:30:34,560
make sure that uh we took samples from

1874
01:30:39,169 --> 01:30:36,420
all parts of the body

1875
01:30:42,350 --> 01:30:39,179
uh hands and feet the back of the neck

1876
01:30:45,290 --> 01:30:42,360
the back of the Torso the bottom part

1877
01:30:47,629 --> 01:30:45,300
has a little bit more meat right

1878
01:30:49,250 --> 01:30:47,639
um the the head there wasn't a lot there

1879
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:49,260
but you know up by the neck and stuff

1880
01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:52,320
and uh and then compare all that data to

1881
01:30:55,310 --> 01:30:54,000
see if it was a genetic match because of

1882
01:30:57,709 --> 01:30:55,320
course people are saying well you know

1883
01:30:59,570 --> 01:30:57,719
they just put a fake hand on they they

1884
01:31:03,290 --> 01:30:59,580
put some bones together and made a fake

1885
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:05,570
that's not what it looked like and then

1886
01:31:10,550 --> 01:31:07,920
when I brought them back to have a

1887
01:31:12,229 --> 01:31:10,560
radiologist in Denver just randomly

1888
01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:12,239
called up this woman I said hey I have a

1889
01:31:15,290 --> 01:31:13,679
bunch of weird x-rays would you take a

1890
01:31:16,370 --> 01:31:15,300
look at them she has no idea what I'm

1891
01:31:18,770 --> 01:31:16,380
talking about I'm not going in there

1892
01:31:21,050 --> 01:31:18,780
saying I went to Peru and I possibly

1893
01:31:22,250 --> 01:31:21,060
might have seen an alien body and tell

1894
01:31:23,810 --> 01:31:22,260
her that at all I just brought in the

1895
01:31:27,770 --> 01:31:23,820
weird x-rays

1896
01:31:32,750 --> 01:31:28,729
um

1897
01:31:33,770 --> 01:31:32,760
she just looked at me and said what is

1898
01:31:35,570 --> 01:31:33,780
this

1899
01:31:38,510 --> 01:31:35,580
and I said will you tell you tell me I

1900
01:31:41,570 --> 01:31:38,520
mean is it is it is it real is it like

1901
01:31:43,570 --> 01:31:41,580
fake and she said no everything in this

1902
01:31:46,970 --> 01:31:43,580
x-ray is real

1903
01:31:50,629 --> 01:31:46,980
biological material based on the Hue of

1904
01:31:51,950 --> 01:31:50,639
the of the of the bones that come

1905
01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:51,960
through the X-ray right she can tell

1906
01:31:56,510 --> 01:31:53,520
right away if it's fake it's synthetic

1907
01:31:58,970 --> 01:31:56,520
it has like a certain Hue to it sure

1908
01:32:01,189 --> 01:31:58,980
she's these are all

1909
01:32:03,830 --> 01:32:01,199
um these are all biological

1910
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I said okay and and I'm like there's

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three fingers and three toes she's like

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I know and I said do you think someone

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just

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you know cut off the other fingers or

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01:32:16,669 --> 01:32:13,320
anything she's okay stop stop right

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01:32:19,970 --> 01:32:16,679
there I gotta take a break I I this

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story is amazing so I want to let's just

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stop right there stop stop stop hurt

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pump the brakes I guess tonight Melissa

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Tittle and uh yes

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01:32:32,450 --> 01:32:31,260
she flew down uh to Peru and she was

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right there in the middle of the

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01:32:36,169 --> 01:32:34,260
investigation of the Nazca mummies we'll

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continue this after this short break

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this is Fade to Black I mean Jimmy

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Church

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way out here we listened to Jimmy Church

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Welcome Back Fade to Black I am your

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01:38:49,310 --> 01:38:47,699
host Jimmy church tonight Melissa Tittle

2047
01:38:51,350 --> 01:38:49,320
is with us

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01:38:53,209 --> 01:38:51,360
we've got a lot of projects uh that we

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01:38:55,129 --> 01:38:53,219
are working on and uh we'll keep

2050
01:38:56,990 --> 01:38:55,139
everybody posted again

2051
01:38:58,970 --> 01:38:57,000
I know what it's like can't talk about

2052
01:39:01,970 --> 01:38:58,980
it well you know that's just the way

2053
01:39:05,149 --> 01:39:01,980
that it is and I enjoy that part of it

2054
01:39:11,629 --> 01:39:06,530
um

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01:39:12,770 --> 01:39:11,639
that's the way that I always look at

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things

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um uh uh we will uh announce everything

2058
01:39:20,750 --> 01:39:18,659
very soon uh with the uh the different

2059
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:20,760
things that we're working on

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01:39:24,649 --> 01:39:23,040
um people want to know but we've got to

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01:39:27,709 --> 01:39:24,659
get it done first

2062
01:39:30,110 --> 01:39:27,719
um now back to the Nazca mummies

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um so

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um when the radiologist I mean the first

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01:39:37,070 --> 01:39:34,860
thing this is what you were touching

2066
01:39:40,010 --> 01:39:37,080
upon a little recap before the break is

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01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:40,020
the three fingers and a radiologist is

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01:39:44,510 --> 01:39:41,280
looking at

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01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:44,520
you know broken bones bones things all

2070
01:39:49,850 --> 01:39:47,520
day long they're looking at Anatomy they

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01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:49,860
understand it immediately when they see

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01:39:52,610 --> 01:39:50,880
it

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um so the question that I always had

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from the beginning

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um and I I remember her input on this I

2076
01:40:01,010 --> 01:39:59,460
was so fascinated is that if you're

2077
01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:01,020
going to look at three fingers they're

2078
01:40:06,649 --> 01:40:04,080
going to know right away what is going

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01:40:11,090 --> 01:40:06,659
on you know three toes

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01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:13,729
um

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01:40:18,649 --> 01:40:16,310
you know you know immediately she went

2082
01:40:21,830 --> 01:40:18,659
into looking at it

2083
01:40:23,870 --> 01:40:21,840
um and and analyzing it right away uh

2084
01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:23,880
and I say this because then I'll tell

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01:40:28,910 --> 01:40:25,920
you what she said next but what she

2086
01:40:31,610 --> 01:40:28,920
first said was there's no there's no

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marks on the bone there's no other place

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01:40:38,270 --> 01:40:34,620
where another digit grew and got cut off

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01:40:42,110 --> 01:40:38,280
you would see that there's no uh all

2090
01:40:44,870 --> 01:40:42,120
these bones uh are connected they can't

2091
01:40:46,550 --> 01:40:44,880
be connected this way if they were uh

2092
01:40:48,830 --> 01:40:46,560
fake and we bother and I've already told

2093
01:40:49,570 --> 01:40:48,840
you they're biological

2094
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um

2095
01:40:55,310 --> 01:40:52,800
so uh

2096
01:40:56,810 --> 01:40:55,320
basically what she was saying is have

2097
01:41:00,530 --> 01:40:56,820
this hair flying away

2098
01:41:02,270 --> 01:41:00,540
basically what she was saying is that um

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01:41:05,390 --> 01:41:02,280
that they're real

2100
01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:05,400
and not only are they real but they

2101
01:41:10,910 --> 01:41:07,920
um but they were not altered

2102
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and and these are the original bones of

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01:41:17,750 --> 01:41:14,460
this person creature whatever it is

2104
01:41:20,090 --> 01:41:17,760
um and no and no and this is how they

2105
01:41:23,390 --> 01:41:20,100
would have grown together if they

2106
01:41:26,110 --> 01:41:23,400
naturally would have been on a creature

2107
01:41:31,910 --> 01:41:28,310
I feel like I'm interrupting you but

2108
01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:31,920
there was one point that I I tracked I

2109
01:41:38,330 --> 01:41:35,280
followed this is that okay you have the

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three fingers but then you have what is

2111
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in the hand and then uh how they join to

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the wrist

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and the natural growth for that and the

2114
01:41:53,330 --> 01:41:51,000
wrist area to me if if this was you know

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01:41:54,770 --> 01:41:53,340
somebody some taxidermist I don't know

2116
01:41:56,330 --> 01:41:54,780
whatever you want to call you know

2117
01:41:59,870 --> 01:41:56,340
sitting there suturing this stuff

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01:42:02,570 --> 01:41:59,880
together and crazy glue and and hot wax

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01:42:04,490 --> 01:42:02,580
or whatever you know the process is uh

2120
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we'll get to the skin part in a minute

2121
01:42:11,930 --> 01:42:09,480
but this has to be natural you can't put

2122
01:42:15,709 --> 01:42:11,940
three fingers on a four finger wrist

2123
01:42:19,189 --> 01:42:15,719
right right I mean it was all like all

2124
01:42:21,050 --> 01:42:19,199
the bones were completely you know I I

2125
01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:21,060
knew that anyway I was looking at them

2126
01:42:24,229 --> 01:42:22,800
and I'm like there isn't any marks

2127
01:42:28,910 --> 01:42:24,239
there's no

2128
01:42:30,169 --> 01:42:28,920
this looks like a natural hand for this

2129
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creature

2130
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so

2131
01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:34,260
um but when she confirmed that I was

2132
01:42:39,950 --> 01:42:36,719
like whoa and then she's like okay well

2133
01:42:40,550 --> 01:42:39,960
I mean maybe this person's deformed and

2134
01:42:43,310 --> 01:42:40,560
um

2135
01:42:47,330 --> 01:42:44,750
because you know she couldn't she

2136
01:42:50,209 --> 01:42:47,340
couldn't wrap the way that because her

2137
01:42:52,609 --> 01:42:50,219
thing was the phalanges were so

2138
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:52,619
big like our like I was saying before

2139
01:42:57,290 --> 01:42:55,679
like ours are very small so she was like

2140
01:43:01,129 --> 01:42:57,300
this is this has been like a massive

2141
01:43:03,890 --> 01:43:01,139
finger or you know and then a hand uh

2142
01:43:05,870 --> 01:43:03,900
and then and then she got into well how

2143
01:43:08,750 --> 01:43:05,880
would they walk how would they function

2144
01:43:10,609 --> 01:43:08,760
with these really long fingers and Top

2145
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:10,619
and Toes

2146
01:43:13,010 --> 01:43:11,280
um

2147
01:43:14,270 --> 01:43:13,020
but you could tell you could tell at

2148
01:43:15,470 --> 01:43:14,280
some point she pulled back because she's

2149
01:43:20,090 --> 01:43:15,480
like okay I don't know what I'm looking

2150
01:43:22,129 --> 01:43:20,100
at and I need more context but was there

2151
01:43:24,350 --> 01:43:22,139
a thumb or was it just three fingers

2152
01:43:26,570 --> 01:43:24,360
just three fingers yeah there was no

2153
01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:26,580
like a fourth digit it was just three

2154
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:29,520
going into the wrist right that's great

2155
01:43:31,669 --> 01:43:30,960
okay and

2156
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:31,679
um

2157
01:43:35,990 --> 01:43:34,560
uh the next part as you're looking at

2158
01:43:38,570 --> 01:43:36,000
this

2159
01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:38,580
um and I I realized there was white

2160
01:43:45,169 --> 01:43:42,239
powder uh covering everything but but if

2161
01:43:48,350 --> 01:43:45,179
you are going to

2162
01:43:49,550 --> 01:43:48,360
um build something like this right

2163
01:43:51,770 --> 01:43:49,560
you're going to hoax this you're going

2164
01:43:54,290 --> 01:43:51,780
to manufacture this

2165
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:54,300
um how do you cover it in skin without

2166
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:55,440
having

2167
01:44:00,530 --> 01:43:57,840
seams

2168
01:44:03,169 --> 01:44:00,540
right okay so hold on a second

2169
01:44:05,209 --> 01:44:03,179
um because uh this never got aired on

2170
01:44:08,330 --> 01:44:05,219
Gaia because I don't know they wanted to

2171
01:44:10,850 --> 01:44:08,340
put out some 11 minute thing they called

2172
01:44:13,729 --> 01:44:10,860
a trailer or teaser and it nothing that

2173
01:44:15,770 --> 01:44:13,739
is 11 minutes as a teaser

2174
01:44:19,609 --> 01:44:15,780
but anyway

2175
01:44:22,609 --> 01:44:19,619
uh what I what did not get aired is that

2176
01:44:26,330 --> 01:44:22,619
I called of of all the the the people

2177
01:44:28,669 --> 01:44:26,340
when we put this 11-minute teaser out

2178
01:44:30,830 --> 01:44:28,679
um I called all the I I put together all

2179
01:44:34,010 --> 01:44:30,840
the hoaxes people said oh that they it's

2180
01:44:35,930 --> 01:44:34,020
it's plaster of Paris right or it's um

2181
01:44:39,649 --> 01:44:35,940
somebody melted a bunch of skin together

2182
01:44:41,090 --> 01:44:39,659
and coated it and made the skin covering

2183
01:44:43,070 --> 01:44:41,100
um um what was some of the other ones

2184
01:44:44,930 --> 01:44:43,080
yeah that they put the animal bones and

2185
01:44:48,530 --> 01:44:44,940
stuff together blah blah

2186
01:44:50,209 --> 01:44:48,540
so I called a taxidermist and I said

2187
01:44:52,550 --> 01:44:50,219
would it be because one of the hoaxes

2188
01:44:54,050 --> 01:44:52,560
was even if they they said oh they could

2189
01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:54,060
just take animal skins and melt it

2190
01:44:58,250 --> 01:44:56,159
together and uncover this body so I call

2191
01:44:59,810 --> 01:44:58,260
this taxidermist and I asked this

2192
01:45:01,790 --> 01:44:59,820
question is that possible can people

2193
01:45:04,609 --> 01:45:01,800
actually do that and the guy like

2194
01:45:07,850 --> 01:45:04,619
literally thought I was Hannibal Lecter

2195
01:45:09,290 --> 01:45:07,860
he was like what he's like you can't do

2196
01:45:11,450 --> 01:45:09,300
that you can't just boil skin together

2197
01:45:14,030 --> 01:45:11,460
and then and somehow make this skin

2198
01:45:15,770 --> 01:45:14,040
that's made up of other animal skin and

2199
01:45:17,810 --> 01:45:15,780
then put it over I'm like I didn't think

2200
01:45:20,109 --> 01:45:17,820
so but you know if anyone's gonna know

2201
01:45:21,950 --> 01:45:20,119
you would

2202
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:21,960
did you

2203
01:45:25,490 --> 01:45:22,800
um

2204
01:45:27,290 --> 01:45:25,500
I'm putting yourself on my shoes right I

2205
01:45:31,550 --> 01:45:27,300
would have looked

2206
01:45:33,530 --> 01:45:31,560
um did you see anything uh that uh

2207
01:45:36,350 --> 01:45:33,540
looked joint I'm talking about the skin

2208
01:45:38,510 --> 01:45:36,360
you know around the hands did you see

2209
01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:38,520
anything that that stood out that

2210
01:45:46,129 --> 01:45:42,480
suggested uh that this was skin that was

2211
01:45:49,450 --> 01:45:46,139
placed on this and not grown

2212
01:45:51,709 --> 01:45:49,460
no I mean it was it

2213
01:45:55,010 --> 01:45:51,719
it's um

2214
01:45:57,310 --> 01:45:55,020
it can't be placed it's on the body you

2215
01:45:59,570 --> 01:45:57,320
gotta scrape it off it's not even like

2216
01:46:01,250 --> 01:45:59,580
sitting there on the top and you're like

2217
01:46:05,030 --> 01:46:01,260
oh there's a piece of skin it's it's

2218
01:46:06,649 --> 01:46:05,040
it's it's so uh dried on the bone

2219
01:46:07,970 --> 01:46:06,659
because remember we're in Peru so this

2220
01:46:11,030 --> 01:46:07,980
is a great place to preserve anything

2221
01:46:12,890 --> 01:46:11,040
right you just scrape it off like the

2222
01:46:13,790 --> 01:46:12,900
tiny fibers that are left like this

2223
01:46:17,930 --> 01:46:13,800
isn't

2224
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:17,940
or just like throw it into the mix and

2225
01:46:22,669 --> 01:46:19,920
be like here's some skin

2226
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:22,679
you know this is like on the body it's a

2227
01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:24,480
whole process to get it off the body

2228
01:46:29,510 --> 01:46:26,639
from what's actually left from you know

2229
01:46:33,350 --> 01:46:29,520
how however old it is

2230
01:46:37,129 --> 01:46:33,360
um and what about uh muscle tissue

2231
01:46:38,689 --> 01:46:37,139
ligament was any of that still well it

2232
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:38,699
looked pretty

2233
01:46:42,830 --> 01:46:40,320
I don't know what's the word I want to

2234
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:42,840
use complete

2235
01:46:48,410 --> 01:46:45,360
the the if we're talking about Maria

2236
01:46:50,149 --> 01:46:48,420
who's the the larger one her her rectum

2237
01:46:51,649 --> 01:46:50,159
was missing uh that could have been

2238
01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:51,659
eaten by an animal at some point after

2239
01:46:56,750 --> 01:46:53,760
she had already died

2240
01:47:00,649 --> 01:46:56,760
um but all of all of her organs were

2241
01:47:04,129 --> 01:47:00,659
intact so most of the uh burials that

2242
01:47:06,590 --> 01:47:04,139
they find in Peru uh they are missing

2243
01:47:09,290 --> 01:47:06,600
those internal organs so this these

2244
01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:09,300
organs are all intact but we did CAT

2245
01:47:12,770 --> 01:47:10,800
scans

2246
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:12,780
um very detailed that you could you

2247
01:47:18,890 --> 01:47:16,080
could see some muscle fiber we did only

2248
01:47:21,649 --> 01:47:18,900
took samples off the body we did not

2249
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:21,659
Chop inside the body but but obviously

2250
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:25,199
the high res scans you could see all of

2251
01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:28,320
this very intricately

2252
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:32,880
um there was uh a number of mummies uh

2253
01:47:37,370 --> 01:47:34,320
that were produced

2254
01:47:39,410 --> 01:47:37,380
um that and and that were x-rayed and

2255
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:39,420
Cat scanned uh different sizes different

2256
01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:40,560
types

2257
01:47:47,209 --> 01:47:44,000
um but all looked uh

2258
01:47:50,270 --> 01:47:47,219
what's an alien right I I don't know but

2259
01:47:54,109 --> 01:47:50,280
but they didn't look like us

2260
01:47:57,109 --> 01:47:54,119
um and some of them reminded me of uh

2261
01:47:59,890 --> 01:47:57,119
and don't laugh but of E.T right then

2262
01:48:03,890 --> 01:47:59,900
the small ones yeah yeah the small ones

2263
01:48:06,950 --> 01:48:03,900
uh a completely different skull

2264
01:48:10,250 --> 01:48:06,960
um and and Body on that and to suggest

2265
01:48:15,169 --> 01:48:10,260
E.T I don't want to sound so naive but

2266
01:48:18,169 --> 01:48:15,179
it it I'm immediately went there

2267
01:48:20,330 --> 01:48:18,179
um but a lot of people surfaced saying

2268
01:48:22,490 --> 01:48:20,340
that they were they were the hoaxers

2269
01:48:25,390 --> 01:48:22,500
they were the ones that constructed

2270
01:48:29,930 --> 01:48:25,400
these and they had the um

2271
01:48:31,370 --> 01:48:29,940
uh the metal uh uh I I don't even know

2272
01:48:34,189 --> 01:48:31,380
what you would call it but there were

2273
01:48:36,770 --> 01:48:34,199
metal Parts uh that were

2274
01:48:39,050 --> 01:48:36,780
um yeah like plates in the chest plate

2275
01:48:41,149 --> 01:48:39,060
and the small one or whatever

2276
01:48:43,010 --> 01:48:41,159
um yeah so the

2277
01:48:44,270 --> 01:48:43,020
so this is how

2278
01:48:46,669 --> 01:48:44,280
um first of all this is how government

2279
01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:46,679
conspiracies get created and this is how

2280
01:48:53,030 --> 01:48:49,920
uh real things get muddled into like

2281
01:48:55,550 --> 01:48:53,040
hoaxes and fake stuff all the time right

2282
01:48:57,950 --> 01:48:55,560
so the person who came out and said that

2283
01:49:00,050 --> 01:48:57,960
they had created the bodies were

2284
01:49:01,790 --> 01:49:00,060
fighting with the people that had the

2285
01:49:02,810 --> 01:49:01,800
bodies because they were kind of cut out

2286
01:49:05,149 --> 01:49:02,820
of the loop

2287
01:49:07,609 --> 01:49:05,159
so they came on and did some press

2288
01:49:09,229 --> 01:49:07,619
conference with some hand that didn't

2289
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:09,239
look anything

2290
01:49:14,149 --> 01:49:11,040
like except for they had three fingers

2291
01:49:16,370 --> 01:49:14,159
didn't look anything like the hand uh

2292
01:49:18,290 --> 01:49:16,380
hands that were on Maria that I've been

2293
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:18,300
talking about and the smaller creatures

2294
01:49:23,209 --> 01:49:20,639
also had three fingers and three toes

2295
01:49:25,070 --> 01:49:23,219
um it it definitely looked manufactured

2296
01:49:27,770 --> 01:49:25,080
and if you actually did a comparison

2297
01:49:30,410 --> 01:49:27,780
between the x-rays of CAT scans and the

2298
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:30,420
actual physical photos of Maria versus

2299
01:49:36,109 --> 01:49:32,159
what this guy was bringing the table it

2300
01:49:38,930 --> 01:49:36,119
doesn't even look similar I don't think

2301
01:49:41,930 --> 01:49:38,940
um uh back then and I know that you

2302
01:49:44,510 --> 01:49:41,940
remember all of this I did a lot of

2303
01:49:48,050 --> 01:49:44,520
stuff on Coast to Coast I did a lot of

2304
01:49:49,330 --> 01:49:48,060
stuff on Fade to Black about this and

2305
01:49:54,050 --> 01:49:49,340
suddenly

2306
01:49:55,729 --> 01:49:54,060
I'm getting information out of Peru from

2307
01:49:59,689 --> 01:49:55,739
different people saying that they were

2308
01:50:02,870 --> 01:49:59,699
involved in this in in the hoax and

2309
01:50:05,090 --> 01:50:02,880
um it when I looked at the evidence that

2310
01:50:07,149 --> 01:50:05,100
was sent to me and the and the other

2311
01:50:10,629 --> 01:50:07,159
stuff that was out there it looked like

2312
01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:10,639
two different City situations

2313
01:50:17,330 --> 01:50:14,400
what I what I found fascinating like I I

2314
01:50:21,410 --> 01:50:17,340
just I I didn't make the connection I I

2315
01:50:24,050 --> 01:50:21,420
depend on my eyes Melissa right okay

2316
01:50:27,709 --> 01:50:24,060
um but the other part to this is it all

2317
01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:27,719
went away the hoaxers Disappeared right

2318
01:50:32,570 --> 01:50:29,760
the things that happened to this stuff

2319
01:50:36,050 --> 01:50:32,580
that was coming from all of it simmered

2320
01:50:38,689 --> 01:50:36,060
down and if it was a hoax it's the

2321
01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:38,699
biggest hoax of the century why isn't

2322
01:50:44,689 --> 01:50:42,239
that elevated if it's real

2323
01:50:48,050 --> 01:50:44,699
um why isn't it also you know the

2324
01:50:51,530 --> 01:50:48,060
biggest Discovery in in the human race

2325
01:50:54,350 --> 01:50:51,540
why isn't this the biggest story

2326
01:50:56,930 --> 01:50:54,360
um ever told it's like why did it die

2327
01:50:58,550 --> 01:50:56,940
down I you know I don't even no I think

2328
01:51:00,050 --> 01:50:58,560
you know we tried to put together what

2329
01:51:01,970 --> 01:51:00,060
we did we didn't try we did we put it

2330
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:01,980
together a documentary kind of

2331
01:51:05,750 --> 01:51:03,840
getting a little bit more into the the

2332
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:05,760
Journey of the story and how it all came

2333
01:51:09,790 --> 01:51:08,159
together but I think

2334
01:51:12,530 --> 01:51:09,800
um

2335
01:51:14,270 --> 01:51:12,540
I think that it just needed it just

2336
01:51:16,370 --> 01:51:14,280
needed to be followed up with but but

2337
01:51:18,109 --> 01:51:16,380
they took the bodies and they went to a

2338
01:51:18,830 --> 01:51:18,119
university

2339
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:18,840
um

2340
01:51:22,490 --> 01:51:20,880
we don't really have any jurisdiction if

2341
01:51:25,430 --> 01:51:22,500
that's what they want to do and the

2342
01:51:27,290 --> 01:51:25,440
university uh their thing was that they

2343
01:51:29,330 --> 01:51:27,300
wanted to continue the studies and take

2344
01:51:31,729 --> 01:51:29,340
care of the bodies and preserve them and

2345
01:51:33,530 --> 01:51:31,739
and make sure that they had proper but I

2346
01:51:35,689 --> 01:51:33,540
haven't heard anything it's just it's

2347
01:51:38,570 --> 01:51:35,699
just like dead air and you're right it's

2348
01:51:41,810 --> 01:51:38,580
very sad it you're that's actually

2349
01:51:45,609 --> 01:51:41,820
you're right it's it's it's very strange

2350
01:51:51,950 --> 01:51:49,310
both both sides of the literally died

2351
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:51,960
and they were mummified

2352
01:51:58,010 --> 01:51:55,440
all the both sides of the story right if

2353
01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:58,020
it's a hoax it's a huge story if it's

2354
01:52:05,990 --> 01:52:00,960
real it's a huge story either one but

2355
01:52:08,270 --> 01:52:06,000
they both went away and I I just I I it

2356
01:52:10,310 --> 01:52:08,280
doesn't make any sense to me and here's

2357
01:52:11,810 --> 01:52:10,320
the and you were right in the middle of

2358
01:52:17,090 --> 01:52:11,820
of all of it

2359
01:52:19,250 --> 01:52:17,100
um now what about uh DNA testing uh and

2360
01:52:21,050 --> 01:52:19,260
and I know I I don't know if you can

2361
01:52:23,450 --> 01:52:21,060
speak about any of this and if there's

2362
01:52:27,590 --> 01:52:23,460
legal things involved

2363
01:52:28,729 --> 01:52:27,600
um but removing stuff from Peru like

2364
01:52:31,609 --> 01:52:28,739
that

2365
01:52:34,970 --> 01:52:31,619
I mean is it legal can you can you can

2366
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:34,980
you can you take parts of a mummy uh out

2367
01:52:38,510 --> 01:52:36,480
of the country without government

2368
01:52:41,030 --> 01:52:38,520
approval or did you have to have I I

2369
01:52:43,189 --> 01:52:41,040
don't know I'm asking you and what were

2370
01:52:45,410 --> 01:52:43,199
the results of that DNA testing

2371
01:52:46,430 --> 01:52:45,420
all right so your first question no

2372
01:52:50,390 --> 01:52:46,440
comment

2373
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:50,400
and uh number two DNA testing

2374
01:52:56,030 --> 01:52:52,560
um so the DNA testing took about a year

2375
01:52:57,290 --> 01:52:56,040
which is it's it's you know that's about

2376
01:52:59,990 --> 01:52:57,300
you know

2377
01:53:02,030 --> 01:53:00,000
what happens in DNA testing is that they

2378
01:53:04,490 --> 01:53:02,040
have to run it through many many

2379
01:53:06,649 --> 01:53:04,500
sessions in the machine to to and they

2380
01:53:08,510 --> 01:53:06,659
have to ask the right question and

2381
01:53:10,669 --> 01:53:08,520
usually when people are doing DNA

2382
01:53:12,229 --> 01:53:10,679
testing they have a full body to work on

2383
01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:12,239
obviously they have small samples to

2384
01:53:16,850 --> 01:53:13,760
work on so they have to be very choosy

2385
01:53:18,530 --> 01:53:16,860
with their questions

2386
01:53:21,350 --> 01:53:18,540
um and you know that one of the things

2387
01:53:24,109 --> 01:53:21,360
that we wanted to know does this DNA

2388
01:53:27,410 --> 01:53:24,119
have any match to any human

2389
01:53:29,870 --> 01:53:27,420
DNA on the planet currently and that

2390
01:53:32,629 --> 01:53:29,880
came up no

2391
01:53:34,669 --> 01:53:32,639
uh so the next question that would have

2392
01:53:38,450 --> 01:53:34,679
happened if the DNA testing would

2393
01:53:40,910 --> 01:53:38,460
continue would be are there genomes that

2394
01:53:42,709 --> 01:53:40,920
haven't been completely mapped yet that

2395
01:53:45,470 --> 01:53:42,719
this could be part of

2396
01:53:48,649 --> 01:53:45,480
so what did come back and this gets a

2397
01:53:53,570 --> 01:53:48,659
little confusing is that 20 of the DNA

2398
01:53:56,870 --> 01:53:53,580
came back as human but not matching the

2399
01:53:58,850 --> 01:53:56,880
current uh DNA on the planet human DNA

2400
01:54:00,530 --> 01:53:58,860
on the planet as of now there's there

2401
01:54:03,590 --> 01:54:00,540
was no animal

2402
01:54:05,350 --> 01:54:03,600
DNA so that kind of rules out the idea

2403
01:54:08,570 --> 01:54:05,360
that we're dealing with some kind of

2404
01:54:09,830 --> 01:54:08,580
manufactured animal situation

2405
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:09,840
um

2406
01:54:15,010 --> 01:54:11,280
but

2407
01:54:16,609 --> 01:54:15,020
um

2408
01:54:22,729 --> 01:54:16,619
what

2409
01:54:24,530 --> 01:54:22,739
it somehow has some kind of human DNA in

2410
01:54:26,689 --> 01:54:24,540
it somehow but it's not really connected

2411
01:54:29,870 --> 01:54:26,699
to the current DNA that we have on this

2412
01:54:32,990 --> 01:54:29,880
planet but that's only 20 so what's the

2413
01:54:34,430 --> 01:54:33,000
other eighty percent and of course

2414
01:54:36,169 --> 01:54:34,440
if you talk to somebody who does this

2415
01:54:37,850 --> 01:54:36,179
for a living they'll say well we run

2416
01:54:39,410 --> 01:54:37,860
many tests and we make sure that we do

2417
01:54:41,930 --> 01:54:39,420
that we ask the same question over and

2418
01:54:44,030 --> 01:54:41,940
over again just to make sure that the

2419
01:54:47,689 --> 01:54:44,040
bacteria count didn't get in the way of

2420
01:54:48,410 --> 01:54:47,699
our of our sequencing

2421
01:54:50,990 --> 01:54:48,420
um

2422
01:54:52,970 --> 01:54:51,000
uh but we had a significant amount to do

2423
01:54:54,470 --> 01:54:52,980
that just to ask that question and we

2424
01:54:56,930 --> 01:54:54,480
still came up with this answer and

2425
01:54:59,450 --> 01:54:56,940
remember we had labs in Canada we had

2426
01:55:02,270 --> 01:54:59,460
labs in Mexico we had labs in Russia so

2427
01:55:06,350 --> 01:55:02,280
everyone came up with the the same the

2428
01:55:09,470 --> 01:55:06,360
same uh results which is fascinating did

2429
01:55:12,530 --> 01:55:09,480
the uh the different uh and I like the

2430
01:55:14,030 --> 01:55:12,540
uh the spread on the different

2431
01:55:15,950 --> 01:55:14,040
Laboratories right you're going with

2432
01:55:18,109 --> 01:55:15,960
different countries different uh

2433
01:55:19,609 --> 01:55:18,119
different points of view

2434
01:55:21,290 --> 01:55:19,619
um looking at this and looking at the

2435
01:55:22,669 --> 01:55:21,300
results of the testing did these three

2436
01:55:25,310 --> 01:55:22,679
Laboratories

2437
01:55:28,609 --> 01:55:25,320
uh communicate with each other or were

2438
01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:28,619
they just completely going at this blind

2439
01:55:33,169 --> 01:55:30,239
and independent

2440
01:55:34,609 --> 01:55:33,179
it's completely independent uh you know

2441
01:55:37,450 --> 01:55:34,619
one thing that that I've noticed in the

2442
01:55:40,370 --> 01:55:37,460
scientific Community just interviewing

2443
01:55:41,750 --> 01:55:40,380
scientists and different uh universities

2444
01:55:43,970 --> 01:55:41,760
and institutions and that kind of thing

2445
01:55:46,430 --> 01:55:43,980
is that is that they don't actually want

2446
01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:46,440
to mix their data anyway right if

2447
01:55:49,010 --> 01:55:47,760
they're literally taking the time to

2448
01:55:50,450 --> 01:55:49,020
investigate something they want to

2449
01:55:54,109 --> 01:55:50,460
completely own it they don't want to

2450
01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:54,119
it's just like being a a judge for a

2451
01:55:57,590 --> 01:55:56,400
case and and you're on social media

2452
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,600
looking at what everybody else is

2453
01:56:00,950 --> 01:55:59,520
talking about you want to be completely

2454
01:56:02,149 --> 01:56:00,960
objective you don't want to get into the

2455
01:56:03,950 --> 01:56:02,159
storyline don't want to talk to the

2456
01:56:05,149 --> 01:56:03,960
journalists you want to go in there you

2457
01:56:07,129 --> 01:56:05,159
want to do your job and you want to give

2458
01:56:08,510 --> 01:56:07,139
them the data and and you want to you

2459
01:56:09,950 --> 01:56:08,520
want to sit and think about it but you

2460
01:56:10,910 --> 01:56:09,960
just don't want to be influenced and you

2461
01:56:13,070 --> 01:56:10,920
definitely don't want to be talking to

2462
01:56:15,290 --> 01:56:13,080
other scientists about it until you've

2463
01:56:18,830 --> 01:56:15,300
really figured out from your lab what's

2464
01:56:22,669 --> 01:56:18,840
happening right right right and did each

2465
01:56:25,370 --> 01:56:22,679
one did each of the three independent uh

2466
01:56:26,990 --> 01:56:25,380
Testing Laboratories did they have the

2467
01:56:28,790 --> 01:56:27,000
multiple samples you know back of the

2468
01:56:30,950 --> 01:56:28,800
neck you know you know a different part

2469
01:56:33,709 --> 01:56:30,960
were they were they testing for or five

2470
01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:33,719
different sections of the body

2471
01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:36,719
yes yes so that that was that question

2472
01:56:41,890 --> 01:56:38,159
was basically

2473
01:56:44,990 --> 01:56:41,900
do all these the body belong to one

2474
01:56:46,669 --> 01:56:45,000
that's my next question right okay and

2475
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:46,679
that came back yes

2476
01:56:52,510 --> 01:56:51,119
so so it wasn't it wasn't uh Hannibal

2477
01:56:55,609 --> 01:56:52,520
Lecter right

2478
01:56:59,330 --> 01:56:55,619
well in that you know chicken bone cow

2479
01:57:00,890 --> 01:56:59,340
Skin Horse hide uh uh monkey bone human

2480
01:57:02,390 --> 01:57:00,900
bone

2481
01:57:04,370 --> 01:57:02,400
um you know all showing up in these

2482
01:57:10,090 --> 01:57:04,380
different samples no all of the samples

2483
01:57:15,649 --> 01:57:13,970
yeah whatever it is yes definitely wow

2484
01:57:19,250 --> 01:57:15,659
that's interesting

2485
01:57:24,649 --> 01:57:19,260
um if you unfolded uh Maria how tall

2486
01:57:26,390 --> 01:57:24,659
would she have been five seven I think

2487
01:57:27,649 --> 01:57:26,400
I came out she's at five seven or five

2488
01:57:30,830 --> 01:57:27,659
eight

2489
01:57:32,169 --> 01:57:30,840
and and one two feet of that are fingers

2490
01:57:35,930 --> 01:57:32,179
and and

2491
01:57:38,030 --> 01:57:35,940
exactly I mean they were this long right

2492
01:57:40,669 --> 01:57:38,040
there were and how many how many bones

2493
01:57:42,350 --> 01:57:40,679
okay on her Planet instead of saying

2494
01:57:46,010 --> 01:57:42,360
she's all torso they're like she's all

2495
01:57:48,109 --> 01:57:46,020
fingers she's all fingers right right so

2496
01:57:50,629 --> 01:57:48,119
we have we have three bones in our

2497
01:57:53,089 --> 01:57:50,639
finger right didn't she have like four

2498
01:57:54,950 --> 01:57:53,099
or five no that yeah she had four so

2499
01:57:57,169 --> 01:57:54,960
that's how long they were but remember

2500
01:57:58,430 --> 01:57:57,179
they're they're they're huge

2501
01:57:59,930 --> 01:57:58,440
um like right now we look at our hands

2502
01:58:02,810 --> 01:57:59,940
and we're like okay well you know but

2503
01:58:04,189 --> 01:58:02,820
you're looking at muscle and um and skin

2504
01:58:05,570 --> 01:58:04,199
and stuff like if we were just looking

2505
01:58:06,950 --> 01:58:05,580
at the bone they were they're just

2506
01:58:10,089 --> 01:58:06,960
massive

2507
01:58:12,649 --> 01:58:10,099
it's the very thick huge so I would say

2508
01:58:17,149 --> 01:58:12,659
if I was to say how long was her hand

2509
01:58:19,729 --> 01:58:17,159
yeah her hand was almost 24 inches

2510
01:58:23,209 --> 01:58:19,739
God that's not that's not

2511
01:58:26,689 --> 01:58:23,219
um now what what did you have uh did you

2512
01:58:28,850 --> 01:58:26,699
go to the actual site where the tomb was

2513
01:58:29,689 --> 01:58:28,860
no I did not

2514
01:58:33,470 --> 01:58:29,699
um

2515
01:58:37,609 --> 01:58:33,480
uh Constantine did who was was uh part

2516
01:58:41,750 --> 01:58:37,619
of the Russian team and Jaime musan went

2517
01:58:45,050 --> 01:58:43,790
well I mean what do they say

2518
01:58:46,669 --> 01:58:45,060
it's the thing I don't know if that was

2519
01:58:47,629 --> 01:58:46,679
the right cave

2520
01:58:50,930 --> 01:58:47,639
um

2521
01:58:52,609 --> 01:58:50,940
it it looked you know it it

2522
01:58:56,510 --> 01:58:52,619
um

2523
01:58:59,209 --> 01:58:56,520
it had the same uh diatomaceous earth

2524
01:59:00,589 --> 01:58:59,219
um look to it

2525
01:59:03,649 --> 01:59:00,599
but I don't know if that was the right

2526
01:59:05,629 --> 01:59:03,659
cave I mean remember

2527
01:59:08,270 --> 01:59:05,639
again let's go back to the agenda

2528
01:59:10,129 --> 01:59:08,280
conversation something is very weird

2529
01:59:12,410 --> 01:59:10,139
that's happening that a lot of people

2530
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:12,420
agree and are trying to scientifically

2531
01:59:17,390 --> 01:59:14,880
prove that whatever those things are

2532
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:17,400
are what we think that they are or not

2533
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:20,639
right but the people involved

2534
01:59:25,129 --> 01:59:22,560
could be a little sketchy so I'm not

2535
01:59:26,810 --> 01:59:25,139
really sure if that cave was actually

2536
01:59:29,810 --> 01:59:26,820
the cave that they found but one thing

2537
01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:29,820
that did not make the documentary

2538
01:59:34,189 --> 01:59:31,440
that I thought was really interesting

2539
01:59:36,350 --> 01:59:34,199
about the diatomaceous earth is that uh

2540
01:59:38,089 --> 01:59:36,360
diatomaceous earth is everywhere right

2541
01:59:39,950 --> 01:59:38,099
you can go you can go to Home Depot and

2542
01:59:41,689 --> 01:59:39,960
buy Diatomaceous Earth people drink

2543
01:59:43,850 --> 01:59:41,699
diatomaceous earth as some kind of

2544
01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:43,860
health benefit

2545
01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:46,320
um so the thought process was well it's

2546
01:59:49,010 --> 01:59:47,760
just covered in Diatomaceous seriously

2547
01:59:52,010 --> 01:59:49,020
probably bought it and covered it and

2548
01:59:54,470 --> 01:59:52,020
all that kind of stuff but the we had we

2549
01:59:58,129 --> 01:59:54,480
took samples of the diatomaceous earth

2550
02:00:00,589 --> 01:59:58,139
uh several times to check and and I sent

2551
02:00:03,350 --> 02:00:00,599
it to a lab to get tested I got a

2552
02:00:05,570 --> 02:00:03,360
mineral and content report of what was

2553
02:00:08,209 --> 02:00:05,580
in the diatomaceous earth now remember

2554
02:00:11,089 --> 02:00:08,219
depending on what the diatomaceous earth

2555
02:00:12,950 --> 02:00:11,099
is made out of besides dead Plankton

2556
02:00:15,649 --> 02:00:12,960
basically and

2557
02:00:17,209 --> 02:00:15,659
minerals from whatever rock it it

2558
02:00:19,609 --> 02:00:17,219
disintegrated from and all that kind of

2559
02:00:21,770 --> 02:00:19,619
stuff it will be different

2560
02:00:23,450 --> 02:00:21,780
so I went on this journey to have

2561
02:00:25,609 --> 02:00:23,460
somebody read this because that's not my

2562
02:00:28,129 --> 02:00:25,619
expertise I can see this is interesting

2563
02:00:30,530 --> 02:00:28,139
but can someone explain this to me I

2564
02:00:32,870 --> 02:00:30,540
found a professor at the University of

2565
02:00:35,330 --> 02:00:32,880
Arizona who doesn't want to be named and

2566
02:00:38,570 --> 02:00:35,340
does not want to be on camera he looked

2567
02:00:40,790 --> 02:00:38,580
at the report and without knowing what

2568
02:00:43,189 --> 02:00:40,800
my story was about I didn't call him and

2569
02:00:45,050 --> 02:00:43,199
say hey I found a dead body in Peru and

2570
02:00:46,310 --> 02:00:45,060
it has three fingers I said could you

2571
02:00:49,970 --> 02:00:46,320
look at this

2572
02:00:52,010 --> 02:00:49,980
um it we this diatomaceous earth came

2573
02:00:53,870 --> 02:00:52,020
from

2574
02:00:55,910 --> 02:00:53,880
some place in South America and we

2575
02:00:58,490 --> 02:00:55,920
wanted to know if you can tell by the

2576
02:01:00,550 --> 02:00:58,500
mineral content where it came from

2577
02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:00,560
plain dumb right

2578
02:01:07,430 --> 02:01:04,560
he specifically pinpointed

2579
02:01:10,250 --> 02:01:07,440
Ika where apparently they found the

2580
02:01:11,870 --> 02:01:10,260
bodies of where this diatomaceous earth

2581
02:01:14,270 --> 02:01:11,880
came from based on the mineral

2582
02:01:17,209 --> 02:01:14,280
composition

2583
02:01:18,770 --> 02:01:17,219
so my thought process was uh so then I

2584
02:01:20,030 --> 02:01:18,780
said

2585
02:01:21,770 --> 02:01:20,040
well okay let me give you a little

2586
02:01:23,209 --> 02:01:21,780
backstory so we found these bodies and

2587
02:01:26,510 --> 02:01:23,219
they're covered in diatomaceous earth

2588
02:01:28,729 --> 02:01:26,520
would it be possible that they would be

2589
02:01:29,870 --> 02:01:28,739
on the body this thick after all this

2590
02:01:32,149 --> 02:01:29,880
time

2591
02:01:34,010 --> 02:01:32,159
and he said yes this is how they

2592
02:01:36,169 --> 02:01:34,020
preserve this is how lots of things get

2593
02:01:37,970 --> 02:01:36,179
preserved by diatomaceous earth based on

2594
02:01:40,550 --> 02:01:37,980
the mineral content of this area there's

2595
02:01:43,070 --> 02:01:40,560
no other place in the world that has

2596
02:01:45,350 --> 02:01:43,080
that mineral content of diatomaceous

2597
02:01:47,450 --> 02:01:45,360
earth except that area

2598
02:01:48,830 --> 02:01:47,460
and I just thought that was pretty

2599
02:01:51,050 --> 02:01:48,840
fascinating considering he's not really

2600
02:01:52,970 --> 02:01:51,060
part of the case and

2601
02:01:55,430 --> 02:01:52,980
um you know

2602
02:01:57,109 --> 02:01:55,440
maybe that that means that that's where

2603
02:01:58,970 --> 02:01:57,119
they actually came from

2604
02:02:00,410 --> 02:01:58,980
unless they just took a bunch of

2605
02:02:02,450 --> 02:02:00,420
Diatomaceous Earth from the cave and

2606
02:02:04,609 --> 02:02:02,460
threw it at this thing but

2607
02:02:06,350 --> 02:02:04,619
without this guy knowing he's kind of

2608
02:02:07,609 --> 02:02:06,360
pinpointing exactly where they said they

2609
02:02:10,850 --> 02:02:07,619
found the bodies

2610
02:02:14,629 --> 02:02:10,860
and the other uh you just said body's

2611
02:02:16,390 --> 02:02:14,639
plural the the the little guys the

2612
02:02:20,089 --> 02:02:16,400
little yeah there's the

2613
02:02:22,850 --> 02:02:20,099
same area right yeah same area

2614
02:02:25,250 --> 02:02:22,860
man okay let's take a break man it says

2615
02:02:27,290 --> 02:02:25,260
it's you know what I don't get I've got

2616
02:02:30,010 --> 02:02:27,300
to get this break in in 15 seconds okay

2617
02:02:35,629 --> 02:02:30,020
it would seem to me

2618
02:02:39,470 --> 02:02:35,639
that tourism at Nazca is a big deal and

2619
02:02:46,070 --> 02:02:39,480
tourism uh for Peru is a big deal

2620
02:02:47,450 --> 02:02:46,080
and this should be something that uh the

2621
02:02:48,830 --> 02:02:47,460
you know the ministry of Tourism

2622
02:02:50,689 --> 02:02:48,840
whatever you want to call it improve

2623
02:02:54,410 --> 02:02:50,699
would be shouting from the rooftops

2624
02:02:56,270 --> 02:02:54,420
about and and wow right you know people

2625
02:02:58,970 --> 02:02:56,280
go to Giza all year long people go to

2626
02:03:02,030 --> 02:02:58,980
Machu Picchu right all year long and

2627
02:03:06,410 --> 02:03:02,040
this would just Elevate and something

2628
02:03:09,050 --> 02:03:06,420
is squashing this this story something

2629
02:03:10,850 --> 02:03:09,060
um and it may not be Peru it might be

2630
02:03:12,770 --> 02:03:10,860
more external than that and that's

2631
02:03:14,450 --> 02:03:12,780
that's just my take this is Fade to

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02:03:17,209 --> 02:03:14,460
Black I'm Yours Jimmy church tonight

2633
02:03:19,310 --> 02:03:17,219
Melissa Tittle Is With Us Melissa stay

2634
02:03:21,109 --> 02:03:19,320
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02:03:23,390 --> 02:03:21,119
this short break

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02:03:24,980 --> 02:03:23,400
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2637
02:03:33,250 --> 02:03:24,990
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02:03:35,570 --> 02:03:34,450
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2698
02:07:04,370 --> 02:07:02,510
Welcome Back Fade to Black I am your

2699
02:07:07,729 --> 02:07:04,380
host Jimmy church tonight Melissa Tittle

2700
02:07:11,209 --> 02:07:09,530
talking about the Nazca mummies I've got

2701
02:07:13,970 --> 02:07:11,219
a couple of follow-up questions and then

2702
02:07:17,149 --> 02:07:13,980
uh we're gonna move on but I wanted to

2703
02:07:18,410 --> 02:07:17,159
share something uh with everybody of

2704
02:07:20,450 --> 02:07:18,420
Melissa

2705
02:07:24,050 --> 02:07:20,460
um leading up to the Bahamas

2706
02:07:25,669 --> 02:07:24,060
uh I was so excited about uh swimming

2707
02:07:27,709 --> 02:07:25,679
with the dolphins

2708
02:07:29,689 --> 02:07:27,719
and I talked about it every night every

2709
02:07:31,850 --> 02:07:29,699
man I'm gonna have a man I can't wait I

2710
02:07:34,550 --> 02:07:31,860
can't wait you and I

2711
02:07:38,089 --> 02:07:34,560
swam with the dolphins together we did

2712
02:07:40,129 --> 02:07:38,099
was that insane was that uh seriously

2713
02:07:43,250 --> 02:07:40,139
was that like the coolest bucket list

2714
02:07:45,589 --> 02:07:43,260
thing ever that was pretty rad I mean

2715
02:07:50,229 --> 02:07:45,599
they're just like uh Big Sea Dogs

2716
02:07:54,830 --> 02:07:50,239
okay see people yeah yeah I mean crazy

2717
02:07:58,189 --> 02:07:54,840
that was just I mean remember when um uh

2718
02:08:00,290 --> 02:07:58,199
uh I forget our dolphin's name

2719
02:08:02,149 --> 02:08:00,300
um and and we we got to swim in this

2720
02:08:04,189 --> 02:08:02,159
natural environment too as well it

2721
02:08:07,729 --> 02:08:04,199
wasn't like a pool it was this Cove

2722
02:08:10,609 --> 02:08:07,739
thing and um but when she swam up to us

2723
02:08:13,669 --> 02:08:10,619
and rolled over and we got to cut her

2724
02:08:17,390 --> 02:08:13,679
belly had her belly I mean right I mean

2725
02:08:19,790 --> 02:08:17,400
that was so cute so now um and and and

2726
02:08:23,030 --> 02:08:19,800
one last thing I wanted to make this

2727
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:23,040
comment you and I uh were standing up

2728
02:08:28,609 --> 02:08:25,199
uh at the beach

2729
02:08:31,010 --> 02:08:28,619
um and and he said let's go I said what

2730
02:08:35,570 --> 02:08:31,020
let's go right now to the water and we

2731
02:08:40,250 --> 02:08:35,580
ran down and ran straight in and was

2732
02:08:43,129 --> 02:08:40,260
that the the warmest clearest bluest

2733
02:08:45,050 --> 02:08:43,139
thing it was like it was like special

2734
02:08:47,810 --> 02:08:45,060
effects wasn't it I mean that wasn't

2735
02:08:51,470 --> 02:08:47,820
that just oh the water the water in the

2736
02:08:55,070 --> 02:08:51,480
Caribbean is amazing perfect yeah

2737
02:08:56,510 --> 02:08:55,080
perfect perfect it was just oh man and

2738
02:08:58,370 --> 02:08:56,520
so Melissa and I did all of that

2739
02:09:00,350 --> 02:08:58,380
together this experience it was it was

2740
02:09:02,990 --> 02:09:00,360
just so cool okay so now let's get back

2741
02:09:06,109 --> 02:09:03,000
back to the uh how was their carbon

2742
02:09:08,270 --> 02:09:06,119
dating done on on Maria

2743
02:09:13,250 --> 02:09:08,280
yes

2744
02:09:16,310 --> 02:09:13,260
um and I I believe she is I mean I say

2745
02:09:19,129 --> 02:09:16,320
only because I think it's we want to

2746
02:09:23,990 --> 02:09:19,139
believe she's like 8 000 years old I

2747
02:09:27,290 --> 02:09:24,000
think she's only 800 years old

2748
02:09:29,570 --> 02:09:27,300
like one of the smaller ones were 1200

2749
02:09:31,490 --> 02:09:29,580
years old and and I think she was only

2750
02:09:33,589 --> 02:09:31,500
like 800 years old or maybe she was 12 I

2751
02:09:37,430 --> 02:09:33,599
can't remember exactly but it's not that

2752
02:09:43,490 --> 02:09:40,790
we're not like looking at okay well

2753
02:09:45,290 --> 02:09:43,500
maybe this is the person or this is the

2754
02:09:48,890 --> 02:09:45,300
group of people that built all these

2755
02:09:50,089 --> 02:09:48,900
amazing monuments in Peru and influence

2756
02:09:52,910 --> 02:09:50,099
the culture we're talking about

2757
02:09:54,830 --> 02:09:52,920
something that's only 800 years old

2758
02:09:58,609 --> 02:09:54,840
I mean

2759
02:10:00,649 --> 02:09:58,619
that's not like yeah it's yesterday this

2760
02:10:04,250 --> 02:10:00,659
this fantasy of like these things only

2761
02:10:07,430 --> 02:10:04,260
lived you know way back then uh but this

2762
02:10:09,890 --> 02:10:07,440
but this was something 800 years ago so

2763
02:10:11,810 --> 02:10:09,900
I again it just adds to the mystery

2764
02:10:13,790 --> 02:10:11,820
and um

2765
02:10:15,770 --> 02:10:13,800
I feel like

2766
02:10:18,890 --> 02:10:15,780
again it just needs to have more

2767
02:10:22,070 --> 02:10:18,900
scientific testing but

2768
02:10:23,689 --> 02:10:22,080
I mean there's just nothing we can do

2769
02:10:27,350 --> 02:10:23,699
unless they want to

2770
02:10:29,390 --> 02:10:27,360
help us it's been squashed I know it's

2771
02:10:32,330 --> 02:10:29,400
been squash it's too much of a paradigm

2772
02:10:35,390 --> 02:10:32,340
shift I mean it's it's it's too big of a

2773
02:10:37,370 --> 02:10:35,400
deal I it's one thing

2774
02:10:39,770 --> 02:10:37,380
um to

2775
02:10:43,970 --> 02:10:39,780
to ponder

2776
02:10:47,330 --> 02:10:43,980
E.T visiting earth right okay right it's

2777
02:10:50,209 --> 02:10:47,340
a whole nother thing to to to cross the

2778
02:10:53,689 --> 02:10:50,219
line in the sand and say this is an E.T

2779
02:10:56,930 --> 02:10:53,699
body right I I think that may be too

2780
02:10:58,729 --> 02:10:56,940
much for the world to handle and if if

2781
02:11:01,490 --> 02:10:58,739
that is indeed the case I think that

2782
02:11:04,030 --> 02:11:01,500
there's uh other influences

2783
02:11:07,430 --> 02:11:04,040
um out there to keep this story

2784
02:11:11,149 --> 02:11:07,440
squashed I think it it leaked out right

2785
02:11:13,910 --> 02:11:11,159
it it bubbled to the surface and with

2786
02:11:16,729 --> 02:11:13,920
Gaia with myself

2787
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:16,739
um and and Coast to Coast this this went

2788
02:11:24,050 --> 02:11:19,520
this went mainstream too quick too fast

2789
02:11:26,270 --> 02:11:24,060
and it wasn't in anybody's control

2790
02:11:28,790 --> 02:11:26,280
um there was nobody controlling your

2791
02:11:30,649 --> 02:11:28,800
investigation there's nobody controlling

2792
02:11:33,890 --> 02:11:30,659
you know gaia's output on this there's

2793
02:11:35,689 --> 02:11:33,900
nobody controlling my voice and you know

2794
02:11:37,089 --> 02:11:35,699
together we're speaking to millions of

2795
02:11:39,709 --> 02:11:37,099
people all right

2796
02:11:42,350 --> 02:11:39,719
and you know and breaking something like

2797
02:11:43,910 --> 02:11:42,360
like this was a really big deal and I

2798
02:11:45,950 --> 02:11:43,920
don't think that they had control of it

2799
02:11:49,010 --> 02:11:45,960
and they did everything they could to

2800
02:11:51,050 --> 02:11:49,020
rope it back in and and squash it

2801
02:11:52,490 --> 02:11:51,060
that's my take and I think I'm pretty

2802
02:11:55,729 --> 02:11:52,500
close to the mark

2803
02:11:58,609 --> 02:11:55,739
yeah I I agree I mean I thought you know

2804
02:12:01,070 --> 02:11:58,619
on a personal note it was it was such an

2805
02:12:03,050 --> 02:12:01,080
exciting thing to be part of not only

2806
02:12:06,530 --> 02:12:03,060
the journey to get there and the people

2807
02:12:08,390 --> 02:12:06,540
and and um the conversations and and

2808
02:12:09,890 --> 02:12:08,400
really trying to come at it from a

2809
02:12:11,629 --> 02:12:09,900
journalistic standpoint and a scientific

2810
02:12:14,390 --> 02:12:11,639
standpoint

2811
02:12:18,350 --> 02:12:14,400
um and

2812
02:12:22,010 --> 02:12:18,360
being caught up in that and and just

2813
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:22,020
yeah yeah that was crazy I remember uh

2814
02:12:28,729 --> 02:12:26,400
uh uh at one point one of the videos I

2815
02:12:32,209 --> 02:12:28,739
might be wrong but I think it had like

2816
02:12:35,270 --> 02:12:32,219
75 million views right it was like like

2817
02:12:38,750 --> 02:12:35,280
what you know and and I thought here we

2818
02:12:42,109 --> 02:12:38,760
go you know this is uh what we've been

2819
02:12:43,729 --> 02:12:42,119
waiting for and it just

2820
02:12:45,770 --> 02:12:43,739
went away

2821
02:12:49,310 --> 02:12:45,780
yeah fascinating uh absolutely

2822
02:12:51,649 --> 02:12:49,320
fascinating all right now uh let's Black

2823
02:12:52,430 --> 02:12:51,659
Knight satellite uh oh you want to go

2824
02:12:54,890 --> 02:12:52,440
there

2825
02:12:56,750 --> 02:12:54,900
is that where you want to go I mean you

2826
02:13:00,649 --> 02:12:56,760
didn't you didn't mention that you know

2827
02:13:03,229 --> 02:13:00,659
that's um uh okay you know what was

2828
02:13:04,729 --> 02:13:03,239
great for me uh uh about the Black

2829
02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:04,739
Knight satellite

2830
02:13:09,109 --> 02:13:06,719
was your direction

2831
02:13:11,450 --> 02:13:09,119
I was so nervous about that I was so

2832
02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:11,460
really I didn't seem nervous

2833
02:13:17,569 --> 02:13:14,400
um uh well we're all friends and things

2834
02:13:21,530 --> 02:13:17,579
there's that part of it but

2835
02:13:25,790 --> 02:13:21,540
um uh it it's I just wanted you to be

2836
02:13:29,209 --> 02:13:25,800
happy right and and and you made you

2837
02:13:31,069 --> 02:13:29,219
made that day so easy

2838
02:13:32,510 --> 02:13:31,079
um uh there was a lot of work done on

2839
02:13:34,189 --> 02:13:32,520
that film

2840
02:13:37,850 --> 02:13:34,199
um and

2841
02:13:40,790 --> 02:13:37,860
um it I've Billy and I started that two

2842
02:13:43,850 --> 02:13:40,800
years ago three or two years ago

2843
02:13:47,569 --> 02:13:43,860
um a pre-pandemic on our cell phones as

2844
02:13:50,709 --> 02:13:47,579
you know and and we were so excited

2845
02:13:55,550 --> 02:13:50,719
about that and it it got away from us

2846
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:55,560
just got away from us and there was uh

2847
02:14:01,910 --> 02:13:58,800
um uh there was only one way that this

2848
02:14:04,010 --> 02:14:01,920
could uh uh you know get what it

2849
02:14:08,030 --> 02:14:04,020
deserved and that is bringing in a

2850
02:14:11,209 --> 02:14:08,040
director and a team uh to to handle this

2851
02:14:12,830 --> 02:14:11,219
and it was funny because Billy and I

2852
02:14:16,810 --> 02:14:12,840
laugh about it now but we were like we

2853
02:14:25,370 --> 02:14:22,129
oh man yeah yeah so we were so innocent

2854
02:14:29,089 --> 02:14:25,380
uh back in the beginning of that but

2855
02:14:32,750 --> 02:14:29,099
made it you made it very very easy

2856
02:14:36,109 --> 02:14:32,760
um when when you started to uh uh when

2857
02:14:38,330 --> 02:14:36,119
you took control of of the film

2858
02:14:42,050 --> 02:14:38,340
um what did you think ultimately the

2859
02:14:45,050 --> 02:14:42,060
goal was and I'm talking about content

2860
02:14:47,810 --> 02:14:45,060
right and we started off in One

2861
02:14:50,270 --> 02:14:47,820
Direction and then in the end

2862
02:14:52,790 --> 02:14:50,280
uh I think we had a different film was

2863
02:14:54,109 --> 02:14:52,800
that uh by intention

2864
02:14:54,830 --> 02:14:54,119
well

2865
02:14:56,089 --> 02:14:54,840
um

2866
02:14:57,830 --> 02:14:56,099
first of all there's a lot of people

2867
02:15:00,410 --> 02:14:57,840
that were interviewed and and he really

2868
02:15:02,270 --> 02:15:00,420
wanted them in there and um

2869
02:15:05,390 --> 02:15:02,280
I wanted to honor that you know remember

2870
02:15:06,830 --> 02:15:05,400
I'm coming in at kind of the end so

2871
02:15:08,569 --> 02:15:06,840
um

2872
02:15:10,910 --> 02:15:08,579
I wouldn't

2873
02:15:12,290 --> 02:15:10,920
I I probably wouldn't have done that if

2874
02:15:13,910 --> 02:15:12,300
that was how it worked in the beginning

2875
02:15:16,370 --> 02:15:13,920
but

2876
02:15:17,990 --> 02:15:16,380
um he really wanted to have this

2877
02:15:21,530 --> 02:15:18,000
Annunaki

2878
02:15:23,450 --> 02:15:21,540
connection to what this thing could be

2879
02:15:25,370 --> 02:15:23,460
and where it came from

2880
02:15:27,649 --> 02:15:25,380
and so we started off the film really

2881
02:15:29,810 --> 02:15:27,659
getting into the data of what this thing

2882
02:15:32,510 --> 02:15:29,820
could be and and you know you brought

2883
02:15:34,550 --> 02:15:32,520
the NSA documents and kind of building

2884
02:15:36,470 --> 02:15:34,560
the story of something that's been

2885
02:15:39,470 --> 02:15:36,480
interacting with humans from a data

2886
02:15:42,229 --> 02:15:39,480
standpoint and then we went into okay

2887
02:15:45,350 --> 02:15:42,239
well if this is true where could it have

2888
02:15:49,729 --> 02:15:45,360
come from so yeah it did kind of get

2889
02:15:52,069 --> 02:15:49,739
into uh hardcore data UFO type story and

2890
02:15:54,890 --> 02:15:52,079
then we're into okay but could this be

2891
02:15:57,950 --> 02:15:54,900
our ancestors from Anunnaki

2892
02:15:59,870 --> 02:15:57,960
anunnakia ancestors pinging back to our

2893
02:16:01,850 --> 02:15:59,880
planet checking in on us you know

2894
02:16:06,770 --> 02:16:01,860
whatever the agenda is

2895
02:16:09,709 --> 02:16:06,780
were you um as as uh fascinated as I was

2896
02:16:12,350 --> 02:16:09,719
about the whole Epsilon Buddhist uh

2897
02:16:16,189 --> 02:16:12,360
connection that that came from multiple

2898
02:16:18,050 --> 02:16:16,199
sources over a period of time and none

2899
02:16:20,330 --> 02:16:18,060
of it was related to each other but it

2900
02:16:23,870 --> 02:16:20,340
kept pointing back to Epsilon

2901
02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:23,880
super fascinating I mean before before

2902
02:16:30,589 --> 02:16:27,840
Gaia uh before Ancient Aliens I was

2903
02:16:34,429 --> 02:16:30,599
obsessed obsessed with the Black Knight

2904
02:16:37,070 --> 02:16:34,439
satellite story On My Own by myself

2905
02:16:39,410 --> 02:16:37,080
um I I had read about the guy in Time

2906
02:16:41,929 --> 02:16:39,420
Magazine and he had decoded it and I was

2907
02:16:43,669 --> 02:16:41,939
like it was connected to Epsilon and I

2908
02:16:46,070 --> 02:16:43,679
was like oh my God this is so amazing

2909
02:16:47,589 --> 02:16:46,080
this is this is like the best comic book

2910
02:16:50,330 --> 02:16:47,599
story ever

2911
02:16:52,129 --> 02:16:50,340
totally true so when he came to me and

2912
02:16:54,049 --> 02:16:52,139
said he was been working on this I was I

2913
02:16:56,690 --> 02:16:54,059
said oh sign me up for sure I mean I was

2914
02:17:01,490 --> 02:16:56,700
just passionate about it anyway so

2915
02:17:04,129 --> 02:17:01,500
and uh and then the uh the NSA document

2916
02:17:07,730 --> 02:17:04,139
you know having Epsilon Buddhas in it

2917
02:17:13,790 --> 02:17:07,740
crazy it's like crazy something

2918
02:17:16,730 --> 02:17:13,800
something is going on here uh and uh the

2919
02:17:19,370 --> 02:17:16,740
if we go back historically uh which we

2920
02:17:20,929 --> 02:17:19,380
cover uh I think pretty thoroughly in

2921
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:20,939
the film

2922
02:17:25,929 --> 02:17:23,040
um we have to look at the historical

2923
02:17:28,910 --> 02:17:25,939
context in that

2924
02:17:32,270 --> 02:17:28,920
telescopes going back to Copernicus

2925
02:17:35,570 --> 02:17:32,280
right and and Galileo

2926
02:17:39,889 --> 02:17:35,580
um have been pointing at the skies for a

2927
02:17:43,009 --> 02:17:39,899
very long time and and and mapping and

2928
02:17:44,750 --> 02:17:43,019
trying to learn what was going on and is

2929
02:17:46,669 --> 02:17:44,760
the Earth at the centers the Senate the

2930
02:17:50,030 --> 02:17:46,679
center that was the first time but we

2931
02:17:51,709 --> 02:17:50,040
were looking at this wall of of stars

2932
02:17:54,770 --> 02:17:51,719
you know above us

2933
02:17:59,209 --> 02:17:54,780
but nobody was seeing anything moving

2934
02:18:02,169 --> 02:17:59,219
right and then to suddenly have comments

2935
02:18:06,349 --> 02:18:02,179
uh when you get into the modern history

2936
02:18:09,290 --> 02:18:06,359
uh 1900 Tesla and forward you know 1900

2937
02:18:13,150 --> 02:18:09,300
up to today we know everything that is

2938
02:18:15,889 --> 02:18:13,160
up there everything and before Sputnik

2939
02:18:17,089 --> 02:18:15,899
technically there was nothing supposed

2940
02:18:19,549 --> 02:18:17,099
to be there

2941
02:18:21,830 --> 02:18:19,559
we right we hadn't we hadn't launched

2942
02:18:24,410 --> 02:18:21,840
anything but we were seeing something in

2943
02:18:25,910 --> 02:18:24,420
a polar orbit yep telescopes are

2944
02:18:29,570 --> 02:18:25,920
pointing up there and there was

2945
02:18:31,849 --> 02:18:29,580
something orbiting Earth before Sputnik

2946
02:18:33,530 --> 02:18:31,859
that's the end of the story now what was

2947
02:18:36,410 --> 02:18:33,540
it was it the Black Knight satellite

2948
02:18:40,190 --> 02:18:36,420
probably but there wasn't supposed to be

2949
02:18:41,750 --> 02:18:40,200
anything up there but there was yeah

2950
02:18:43,610 --> 02:18:41,760
I mean it would have been interesting to

2951
02:18:46,310 --> 02:18:43,620
interview Avi Loeb and his whole

2952
02:18:47,509 --> 02:18:46,320
investigation on um I'm gonna murder the

2953
02:18:53,270 --> 02:18:47,519
name

2954
02:18:53,990 --> 02:18:53,280
oh mama

2955
02:18:56,629 --> 02:18:54,000
um

2956
02:18:57,889 --> 02:18:56,639
because what would his I mean I don't

2957
02:19:00,889 --> 02:18:57,899
think he would say that was the Black

2958
02:19:04,549 --> 02:19:00,899
Knight but could they be related this

2959
02:19:07,370 --> 02:19:04,559
this thing that he saw that it has uh a

2960
02:19:09,889 --> 02:19:07,380
man-made or controlled orbit versus

2961
02:19:13,610 --> 02:19:09,899
something that would be uh gravitational

2962
02:19:15,709 --> 02:19:13,620
pull around a planet right so it'd be

2963
02:19:16,849 --> 02:19:15,719
interested that would I mean that would

2964
02:19:18,650 --> 02:19:16,859
have been something I would have loved

2965
02:19:20,770 --> 02:19:18,660
to add if that was a possibility but you

2966
02:19:22,730 --> 02:19:20,780
never know yeah

2967
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:22,740
you don't

2968
02:19:28,910 --> 02:19:26,639
um now I want to uh if we can and I know

2969
02:19:31,370 --> 02:19:28,920
you're on the East Coast but I would

2970
02:19:32,870 --> 02:19:31,380
love to do another additional 20 minutes

2971
02:19:34,910 --> 02:19:32,880
tonight and

2972
02:19:37,790 --> 02:19:34,920
um and go into overtime with you and

2973
02:19:40,270 --> 02:19:37,800
only because you don't have anything to

2974
02:19:42,889 --> 02:19:40,280
do tomorrow you're not doing anything

2975
02:19:46,250 --> 02:19:42,899
we've got nothing going here you can

2976
02:19:48,410 --> 02:19:46,260
just sleep in and do anything but um I

2977
02:19:50,870 --> 02:19:48,420
want to talk about Consciousness and

2978
02:19:54,770 --> 02:19:50,880
this is something that you are deeply

2979
02:19:56,090 --> 02:19:54,780
interested in and uh but the the

2980
02:19:58,250 --> 02:19:56,100
conversation when we get into

2981
02:20:00,710 --> 02:19:58,260
Consciousness uh with every one of my

2982
02:20:06,770 --> 02:20:00,720
guess is the same thing uh what's your

2983
02:20:12,230 --> 02:20:09,349
Consciousness is

2984
02:20:16,370 --> 02:20:12,240
um a field that we are all interacting

2985
02:20:23,570 --> 02:20:19,150
I think

2986
02:20:27,410 --> 02:20:23,580
it's pot it's it it's constantly

2987
02:20:30,710 --> 02:20:27,420
changing its um

2988
02:20:31,670 --> 02:20:30,720
it's tone like we are right so just like

2989
02:20:38,030 --> 02:20:31,680
uh

2990
02:20:40,670 --> 02:20:38,040
when someone says oh well that's common

2991
02:20:44,210 --> 02:20:40,680
sense that's probably not the same now

2992
02:20:45,950 --> 02:20:44,220
meaning you know 50 of something is

2993
02:20:48,410 --> 02:20:45,960
common sense so what I'm saying is

2994
02:20:51,130 --> 02:20:48,420
consciousness is this field that's ever

2995
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:51,140
changing and it's never the same thing

2996
02:20:58,370 --> 02:20:54,960
and we are all absorbing it and and

2997
02:21:00,349 --> 02:20:58,380
functioning within it kind of all

2998
02:21:04,250 --> 02:21:00,359
sort of having the same thoughts at the

2999
02:21:11,570 --> 02:21:08,090
continue that's interesting you know I

3000
02:21:12,770 --> 02:21:11,580
um I ask nearly all of my guests this

3001
02:21:15,490 --> 02:21:12,780
court doesn't matter about their

3002
02:21:18,710 --> 02:21:15,500
background right we all wonder about

3003
02:21:20,630 --> 02:21:18,720
what's going on here right and and we

3004
02:21:21,770 --> 02:21:20,640
have our own opinions I've never heard

3005
02:21:23,510 --> 02:21:21,780
that take

3006
02:21:26,950 --> 02:21:23,520
that's that's that's that's pretty

3007
02:21:31,010 --> 02:21:26,960
interesting well I I are you

3008
02:21:33,530 --> 02:21:31,020
suggesting that it's Universal as in the

3009
02:21:36,070 --> 02:21:33,540
universe that it is everywhere all the

3010
02:21:41,929 --> 02:21:40,429
yes yes Consciousness is you know this

3011
02:21:44,750 --> 02:21:41,939
is this is what all the new age things

3012
02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:44,760
are about right so um depending on who

3013
02:21:50,510 --> 02:21:47,280
you follow or what you read or something

3014
02:21:53,690 --> 02:21:50,520
you read on a ancient wall somewhere

3015
02:21:56,389 --> 02:21:53,700
it's all about connecting to this field

3016
02:21:58,849 --> 02:21:56,399
so there's infinite amounts of

3017
02:22:01,370 --> 02:21:58,859
possibilities and thoughts that you can

3018
02:22:03,889 --> 02:22:01,380
have and things you can connect with all

3019
02:22:06,429 --> 02:22:03,899
if you aren't aware of that then you are

3020
02:22:09,469 --> 02:22:06,439
just in this conscious

3021
02:22:11,030 --> 02:22:09,479
consciousness of of the planet we have

3022
02:22:13,730 --> 02:22:11,040
and you're just

3023
02:22:15,770 --> 02:22:13,740
being fed things and you're not really

3024
02:22:19,429 --> 02:22:15,780
deciphering what it is that you are

3025
02:22:22,490 --> 02:22:19,439
picking up you're just existing right so

3026
02:22:24,770 --> 02:22:22,500
that the whole idea of meditation and

3027
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:24,780
thought processing and being intentional

3028
02:22:28,969 --> 02:22:26,880
and um

3029
02:22:32,210 --> 02:22:28,979
being able to be in contact with the

3030
02:22:34,250 --> 02:22:32,220
field is all about being able to be in

3031
02:22:36,830 --> 02:22:34,260
contact with what is it you are looking

3032
02:22:38,929 --> 02:22:36,840
for in the Consciousness space I also

3033
02:22:40,849 --> 02:22:38,939
think things have conscious there's

3034
02:22:44,389 --> 02:22:40,859
different Consciousness fears so for

3035
02:22:47,990 --> 02:22:44,399
instance I did a documentary on plant

3036
02:22:49,969 --> 02:22:48,000
medicines and the first part of the film

3037
02:22:52,490 --> 02:22:49,979
which I thought was very interesting and

3038
02:22:53,929 --> 02:22:52,500
important to explain that 80 of the

3039
02:22:57,429 --> 02:22:53,939
planet is

3040
02:23:00,290 --> 02:22:57,439
plants and trees and

3041
02:23:03,530 --> 02:23:00,300
you know it's not humans it's not

3042
02:23:05,270 --> 02:23:03,540
anything else it's 80 they like they run

3043
02:23:07,550 --> 02:23:05,280
they have they they own this

3044
02:23:09,469 --> 02:23:07,560
Consciousness space so when someone says

3045
02:23:11,870 --> 02:23:09,479
I've done plant medicine

3046
02:23:15,410 --> 02:23:11,880
and I was in touch with this goddess and

3047
02:23:17,570 --> 02:23:15,420
and the forest was speaking to me they

3048
02:23:20,389 --> 02:23:17,580
were tapping into another Consciousness

3049
02:23:22,790 --> 02:23:20,399
field of

3050
02:23:23,870 --> 02:23:22,800
plants I mean it sounds crazy but I

3051
02:23:25,250 --> 02:23:23,880
think that there is this conscious field

3052
02:23:27,230 --> 02:23:25,260
just like there's a Consciousness for

3053
02:23:30,530 --> 02:23:27,240
just humans there's a Consciousness for

3054
02:23:32,270 --> 02:23:30,540
probably certain species of animals and

3055
02:23:34,070 --> 02:23:32,280
that it exists and then the only way

3056
02:23:36,469 --> 02:23:34,080
that you actually get out of that

3057
02:23:38,809 --> 02:23:36,479
Consciousness bubble of being the human

3058
02:23:40,429 --> 02:23:38,819
consciousness bubble is that you are

3059
02:23:43,370 --> 02:23:40,439
able to use those techniques that people

3060
02:23:45,170 --> 02:23:43,380
teach in the New Age spaces and you

3061
02:23:47,150 --> 02:23:45,180
dabble into these other Consciousness

3062
02:23:52,070 --> 02:23:47,160
space

3063
02:23:56,450 --> 02:23:52,080
like plants yes or aliens or Mars

3064
02:23:57,710 --> 02:23:56,460
I um I I went through it was about a

3065
02:24:03,410 --> 02:23:57,720
year ago

3066
02:24:07,070 --> 02:24:03,420
to back I go through these Ebbs and you

3067
02:24:10,030 --> 02:24:07,080
know this ebb and flow of of research

3068
02:24:13,910 --> 02:24:10,040
and I I dived into trees for a minute

3069
02:24:16,010 --> 02:24:13,920
and I watched a few documentaries on

3070
02:24:18,410 --> 02:24:16,020
tree communities

3071
02:24:21,830 --> 02:24:18,420
how trees exist

3072
02:24:22,610 --> 02:24:21,840
and and how they communicate with each

3073
02:24:25,490 --> 02:24:22,620
other

3074
02:24:28,130 --> 02:24:25,500
and and there's you know the science

3075
02:24:30,110 --> 02:24:28,140
behind this right and we're just now

3076
02:24:34,010 --> 02:24:30,120
starting to understand this

3077
02:24:35,690 --> 02:24:34,020
I didn't know a few things one and I

3078
02:24:36,950 --> 02:24:35,700
talk about trees being conscious or

3079
02:24:39,230 --> 02:24:36,960
plants right

3080
02:24:42,889 --> 02:24:39,240
you have a tall tree

3081
02:24:47,630 --> 02:24:42,899
you have a baby tree next to it

3082
02:24:49,130 --> 02:24:47,640
Tall Tree knows that baby tree needs

3083
02:24:53,050 --> 02:24:49,140
sunlight

3084
02:24:57,230 --> 02:24:53,060
so Tall Tree will adjust

3085
02:24:58,550 --> 02:24:57,240
itself to allow sunlight to come down to

3086
02:25:01,370 --> 02:24:58,560
the baby tree

3087
02:25:05,389 --> 02:25:01,380
now how nuts is that right I mean just

3088
02:25:09,650 --> 02:25:05,399
stop it just just like just take that in

3089
02:25:11,690 --> 02:25:09,660
for a minute right how how trees

3090
02:25:14,210 --> 02:25:11,700
next to each other all of this is

3091
02:25:17,870 --> 02:25:14,220
measured and and and monitored it's

3092
02:25:20,090 --> 02:25:17,880
crazy it's crazy and uh sorry not to cut

3093
02:25:22,730 --> 02:25:20,100
you off it I just well let me finish

3094
02:25:24,950 --> 02:25:22,740
this thought and then then I'll hand it

3095
02:25:28,550 --> 02:25:24,960
over to you that okay so you have a

3096
02:25:30,349 --> 02:25:28,560
cluster of trees and one of the trees is

3097
02:25:32,210 --> 02:25:30,359
missing

3098
02:25:35,570 --> 02:25:32,220
some vitamins

3099
02:25:39,650 --> 02:25:35,580
price some minerals through the root

3100
02:25:41,750 --> 02:25:39,660
system the other trees know that this

3101
02:25:45,010 --> 02:25:41,760
tree needs some juice

3102
02:25:49,550 --> 02:25:45,020
and through the root system

3103
02:25:53,889 --> 02:25:49,560
gets the minerals that that the tree

3104
02:25:56,929 --> 02:25:53,899
that is like and and makes sure that it

3105
02:26:00,590 --> 02:25:56,939
wait a minute what is this and this is

3106
02:26:02,090 --> 02:26:00,600
this is real so to think that uh for a

3107
02:26:04,790 --> 02:26:02,100
second that they're they're not

3108
02:26:06,830 --> 02:26:04,800
conscious they're not thinking they're

3109
02:26:11,510 --> 02:26:06,840
not caring they're not nurturing it it's

3110
02:26:13,490 --> 02:26:11,520
it's crazy town and this is this is I

3111
02:26:16,849 --> 02:26:13,500
watched one documentary after another

3112
02:26:19,670 --> 02:26:16,859
about this subject fascinating

3113
02:26:21,230 --> 02:26:19,680
yeah I um I think it was just a couple

3114
02:26:24,710 --> 02:26:21,240
months ago I was reading this article

3115
02:26:26,330 --> 02:26:24,720
about how mushrooms are the neurons of

3116
02:26:28,490 --> 02:26:26,340
the forest so if we think of like my

3117
02:26:30,290 --> 02:26:28,500
Consciousness bubble that was explaining

3118
02:26:32,030 --> 02:26:30,300
that just the plants and the trees and

3119
02:26:33,349 --> 02:26:32,040
the vegetation they're all communicating

3120
02:26:37,070 --> 02:26:33,359
with each other in some kind of field

3121
02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:37,080
right the mushrooms act as the the

3122
02:26:43,849 --> 02:26:41,520
neurons within the forest to communicate

3123
02:26:45,830 --> 02:26:43,859
with tree over there hey

3124
02:26:47,450 --> 02:26:45,840
this guy over here doesn't have enough

3125
02:26:49,610 --> 02:26:47,460
minerals what do you think you know like

3126
02:26:50,929 --> 02:26:49,620
their their Community they actually were

3127
02:26:53,450 --> 02:26:50,939
able to I don't know how this is

3128
02:26:55,790 --> 02:26:53,460
possible but no I I saw the same thing I

3129
02:26:59,570 --> 02:26:55,800
saw that it continued but I saw the

3130
02:27:01,370 --> 02:26:59,580
exact same thing so you know just just

3131
02:27:03,290 --> 02:27:01,380
like here's the thing we can believe

3132
02:27:04,790 --> 02:27:03,300
this more than we can believe that

3133
02:27:06,349 --> 02:27:04,800
humans are part of some Consciousness

3134
02:27:08,630 --> 02:27:06,359
feel by the way don't you think that's

3135
02:27:10,910 --> 02:27:08,640
just crazy for a second people are still

3136
02:27:12,530 --> 02:27:10,920
thinking like I don't know I mean

3137
02:27:13,370 --> 02:27:12,540
meditation makes me feel better but I

3138
02:27:14,510 --> 02:27:13,380
don't know about this whole thing with

3139
02:27:16,849 --> 02:27:14,520
the field and everything like that but

3140
02:27:18,469 --> 02:27:16,859
they believe the whole thing with the

3141
02:27:20,450 --> 02:27:18,479
trees and the mushrooms and the neurons

3142
02:27:21,370 --> 02:27:20,460
and anyway so back to the mushrooms and

3143
02:27:25,370 --> 02:27:21,380
the neurons

3144
02:27:29,270 --> 02:27:25,380
so they were able to calculate

3145
02:27:31,670 --> 02:27:29,280
somehow the the mushrooms actually have

3146
02:27:34,190 --> 02:27:31,680
like six words that they say like they

3147
02:27:37,130 --> 02:27:34,200
were able to decipher the words

3148
02:27:39,349 --> 02:27:37,140
they spell and I don't by the way I

3149
02:27:41,090 --> 02:27:39,359
don't know exactly this is a scientific

3150
02:27:43,490 --> 02:27:41,100
paper this is like a nature magazine or

3151
02:27:45,230 --> 02:27:43,500
something like that uh how they were

3152
02:27:47,690 --> 02:27:45,240
able to figure out what the words are

3153
02:27:50,809 --> 02:27:47,700
there's like six words that they believe

3154
02:27:52,849 --> 02:27:50,819
that these mushrooms say to the for it I

3155
02:27:53,929 --> 02:27:52,859
I just my mind's blown that's all that's

3156
02:27:56,270 --> 02:27:53,939
all I gotta say

3157
02:27:58,370 --> 02:27:56,280
I didn't I don't even have to take drugs

3158
02:28:00,170 --> 02:27:58,380
it's like whoa yeah I know exactly

3159
02:28:02,750 --> 02:28:00,180
exactly so

3160
02:28:05,090 --> 02:28:02,760
um I just spent a bunch of time a few

3161
02:28:07,790 --> 02:28:05,100
months in in Northern California in the

3162
02:28:09,590 --> 02:28:07,800
Redwoods and and you know and I'm

3163
02:28:11,389 --> 02:28:09,600
watching these documentaries and I'm

3164
02:28:13,730 --> 02:28:11,399
learning you know and and you walk

3165
02:28:17,150 --> 02:28:13,740
around

3166
02:28:19,670 --> 02:28:17,160
um at at uh my brother's house in his

3167
02:28:22,010 --> 02:28:19,680
front yard his front yard like his front

3168
02:28:24,710 --> 02:28:22,020
patio two feet in front of the front

3169
02:28:27,349 --> 02:28:24,720
patio this redwood tree it's got to be

3170
02:28:29,170 --> 02:28:27,359
eight feet in diameter at the bank right

3171
02:28:31,870 --> 02:28:29,180
beautiful

3172
02:28:34,490 --> 02:28:31,880
but he's in the middle of

3173
02:28:37,270 --> 02:28:34,500
you know the Redwoods up there in

3174
02:28:40,670 --> 02:28:37,280
Mendocino and and you just the

3175
02:28:44,270 --> 02:28:40,680
magnificence of it so anyway

3176
02:28:45,770 --> 02:28:44,280
this is what I did I did this every day

3177
02:28:48,889 --> 02:28:45,780
I went out in the morning got my coffee

3178
02:28:52,429 --> 02:28:48,899
and I would stare out at these these

3179
02:28:55,849 --> 02:28:52,439
magnificent 300 400 foot trees blowing

3180
02:28:58,190 --> 02:28:55,859
in the wind together right and working

3181
02:29:02,270 --> 02:28:58,200
and and then you just look around and

3182
02:29:04,429 --> 02:29:02,280
you understand that they've got it down

3183
02:29:07,790 --> 02:29:04,439
trees got it down they've been doing it

3184
02:29:11,510 --> 02:29:07,800
for thousands of years and they know

3185
02:29:14,150 --> 02:29:11,520
what to do to exist and it's it's

3186
02:29:17,090 --> 02:29:14,160
magnificent uh to see nature like that

3187
02:29:18,170 --> 02:29:17,100
uh work all together and so anyway so

3188
02:29:20,990 --> 02:29:18,180
one day

3189
02:29:22,910 --> 02:29:21,000
I'm sitting out there and deer are

3190
02:29:25,550 --> 02:29:22,920
everywhere deer I mean it's just like

3191
02:29:28,790 --> 02:29:25,560
crazy crazy amounts of deer and bears

3192
02:29:30,230 --> 02:29:28,800
and stuff but this Mom

3193
02:29:32,870 --> 02:29:30,240
dear

3194
02:29:34,969 --> 02:29:32,880
had two baby deers

3195
02:29:36,349 --> 02:29:34,979
right following her and they're doing

3196
02:29:37,550 --> 02:29:36,359
their thing and I'm watching I said wait

3197
02:29:41,210 --> 02:29:37,560
a minute

3198
02:29:43,610 --> 02:29:41,220
don't they only have one baby at a time

3199
02:29:45,469 --> 02:29:43,620
she had twins

3200
02:29:46,929 --> 02:29:45,479
how cool is that right so now I'm

3201
02:29:49,790 --> 02:29:46,939
looking at

3202
02:29:52,510 --> 02:29:49,800
twin baby deer

3203
02:29:55,490 --> 02:29:52,520
cool

3204
02:29:58,070 --> 02:29:55,500
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and you just

3205
02:30:01,670 --> 02:29:58,080
get this a whole other appreciation uh

3206
02:30:06,170 --> 02:30:01,680
to what nature is and and I'm fully

3207
02:30:08,210 --> 02:30:06,180
fully aware that um all of this uh it

3208
02:30:10,250 --> 02:30:08,220
obviously tears are conscious right

3209
02:30:13,370 --> 02:30:10,260
they're sentient and and I get that but

3210
02:30:17,630 --> 02:30:13,380
but so are trees sower nature and and

3211
02:30:19,550 --> 02:30:17,640
the forest has got it down they know

3212
02:30:21,290 --> 02:30:19,560
what to do to survive and they take care

3213
02:30:27,170 --> 02:30:21,300
of each other it's fascinating it's

3214
02:30:31,250 --> 02:30:29,090
um let's uh let's take a break I'm going

3215
02:30:33,969 --> 02:30:31,260
to continue with Consciousness though um

3216
02:30:39,050 --> 02:30:33,979
when we come back after the break and

3217
02:30:43,389 --> 02:30:39,060
the the idea of being able to

3218
02:30:47,450 --> 02:30:43,399
communicate with ET is one thing Melissa

3219
02:30:50,330 --> 02:30:47,460
E.T must be communicating with each

3220
02:30:52,730 --> 02:30:50,340
other the universe is a big big place

3221
02:30:55,550 --> 02:30:52,740
you're not going to do it with a radio

3222
02:30:58,010 --> 02:30:55,560
or a cell phone or something mechanical

3223
02:30:59,630 --> 02:30:58,020
you're going to do it with your head I

3224
02:31:02,030 --> 02:30:59,640
want to talk about that when we come

3225
02:31:04,730 --> 02:31:02,040
back this is Fade to Black I am your

3226
02:31:08,469 --> 02:31:04,740
host Jimmy church tonight Melissa Tittle

3227
02:31:11,330 --> 02:31:08,479
you ready one more segment Melissa okay

3228
02:31:13,969 --> 02:31:11,340
you'll be all right this is Fade to

3229
02:31:15,950 --> 02:31:13,979
Black I am your host Jimmy Church what a

3230
02:31:18,410 --> 02:31:15,960
great conversation tonight we'll uh

3231
02:31:19,849 --> 02:31:18,420
continue when we come back right where

3232
02:31:23,900 --> 02:31:19,859
we're leaving off after the short break

3233
02:31:40,210 --> 02:31:38,930
[Music]

3234
02:31:48,290 --> 02:31:40,220
[Applause]

3235
02:31:57,969 --> 02:31:50,690
you're listening to jebby church and

3236
02:32:06,190 --> 02:32:01,010
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3237
02:32:08,809 --> 02:32:06,200
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3238
02:32:16,670 --> 02:32:08,819
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3239
02:32:21,950 --> 02:32:18,710
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3240
02:32:24,349 --> 02:32:21,960
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3242
02:32:28,849 --> 02:32:26,580
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3243
02:32:30,710 --> 02:32:28,859
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3244
02:32:33,410 --> 02:32:30,720
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3245
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3246
02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:35,819
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3247
02:32:40,370 --> 02:32:38,160
the air which seek out odors and air

3248
02:32:42,770 --> 02:32:40,380
pollutants in your home and destroys

3249
02:32:45,590 --> 02:32:42,780
them it's called a thunderstorm because

3250
02:32:47,929 --> 02:32:45,600
it purifies the air just like after a

3251
02:32:50,809 --> 02:32:47,939
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02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:38,880
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3331
02:36:46,670 --> 02:36:44,570
she asked me earlier today she goes well

3332
02:36:48,889 --> 02:36:46,680
you know how long

3333
02:36:50,809 --> 02:36:48,899
I said ah we're just gonna talk for

3334
02:36:53,090 --> 02:36:50,819
about 30 minutes it's it's not that big

3335
02:36:56,630 --> 02:36:53,100
of a deal it's gonna be uh in and out

3336
02:36:58,610 --> 02:36:56,640
Melissa don't don't worry about a thing

3337
02:37:00,710 --> 02:36:58,620
so

3338
02:37:03,650 --> 02:37:00,720
I I wanted to

3339
02:37:06,889 --> 02:37:03,660
um I've heard a lot of comments uh about

3340
02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:06,899
the season finale about uh of UFO

3341
02:37:11,870 --> 02:37:07,920
Witness

3342
02:37:15,469 --> 02:37:11,880
and uh which I didn't see okay but I've

3343
02:37:18,050 --> 02:37:15,479
read this enough I guess uh you and Ben

3344
02:37:20,630 --> 02:37:18,060
suggested that there were eight

3345
02:37:22,730 --> 02:37:20,640
uh eight eight different species

3346
02:37:25,610 --> 02:37:22,740
visiting the Earth and part of the

3347
02:37:29,330 --> 02:37:25,620
Galactic Federation uh what was said and

3348
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:30,469
um

3349
02:37:35,570 --> 02:37:34,080
yes so uh

3350
02:37:36,250 --> 02:37:35,580
uh we

3351
02:37:38,450 --> 02:37:36,260
um

3352
02:37:40,610 --> 02:37:38,460
I have like three different narratives

3353
02:37:42,469 --> 02:37:40,620
running in my head right now so let me

3354
02:37:47,030 --> 02:37:42,479
let me say something let me let me say

3355
02:37:49,929 --> 02:37:47,040
something first okay I am gonna say I am

3356
02:37:53,030 --> 02:37:49,939
proud of mainstream

3357
02:37:54,950 --> 02:37:53,040
for taking this conversation into the

3358
02:37:57,889 --> 02:37:54,960
mainstream because I there there's

3359
02:38:00,349 --> 02:37:57,899
there's been no show about aliens where

3360
02:38:02,750 --> 02:38:00,359
on mainstream Nakaya mainstream where

3361
02:38:05,150 --> 02:38:02,760
they are talking about species and

3362
02:38:07,790 --> 02:38:05,160
people being abducted and and what the

3363
02:38:10,610 --> 02:38:07,800
species look like and so this is their

3364
02:38:12,650 --> 02:38:10,620
first attempt of doing so and um you

3365
02:38:14,809 --> 02:38:12,660
know they had ideas of you know they I

3366
02:38:16,730 --> 02:38:14,819
was like well do you want to talk to me

3367
02:38:18,410 --> 02:38:16,740
a little bit more about it before you

3368
02:38:20,330 --> 02:38:18,420
make drawings and stuff in them but

3369
02:38:22,910 --> 02:38:20,340
they're like no no we got it

3370
02:38:25,370 --> 02:38:22,920
so what I'm saying is I'm really proud

3371
02:38:27,230 --> 02:38:25,380
of Discovery Plus for moving the

3372
02:38:28,849 --> 02:38:27,240
conversation forward I don't know if

3373
02:38:31,670 --> 02:38:28,859
these beans exist they haven't been in

3374
02:38:33,770 --> 02:38:31,680
my bedroom but I I do I know that

3375
02:38:36,170 --> 02:38:33,780
there's lots of cases of the similar

3376
02:38:39,110 --> 02:38:36,180
types of beans that have been seen for

3377
02:38:42,170 --> 02:38:39,120
for a long time a long time this is you

3378
02:38:45,309 --> 02:38:42,180
know palladians nordics uh these blue

3379
02:38:50,389 --> 02:38:49,429
exactly Grays you know whatever so I I

3380
02:38:51,530 --> 02:38:50,399
really

3381
02:38:52,969 --> 02:38:51,540
um I applaud that because they're

3382
02:38:55,849 --> 02:38:52,979
pushing the narrative forward forward

3383
02:38:57,710 --> 02:38:55,859
they're allowing for more stuff besides

3384
02:38:59,270 --> 02:38:57,720
the trajectory of the thing and the

3385
02:39:00,290 --> 02:38:59,280
whatever

3386
02:39:03,889 --> 02:39:00,300
um

3387
02:39:05,389 --> 02:39:03,899
but uh so with the conclusion was you

3388
02:39:06,950 --> 02:39:05,399
know Ben and I were talking about like

3389
02:39:09,410 --> 02:39:06,960
all these you know creating patterns

3390
02:39:11,690 --> 02:39:09,420
within the cases that we were seeing was

3391
02:39:14,929 --> 02:39:11,700
that it seems that there's like six or

3392
02:39:16,370 --> 02:39:14,939
seven prevalent groups that that are

3393
02:39:20,030 --> 02:39:16,380
what people see

3394
02:39:21,830 --> 02:39:20,040
and I would say that that is true in

3395
02:39:24,290 --> 02:39:21,840
some aspects if not even if you're on

3396
02:39:26,270 --> 02:39:24,300
UFO witness but if you just take all the

3397
02:39:28,670 --> 02:39:26,280
mufon accounts and and people will say

3398
02:39:31,849 --> 02:39:28,680
it looks like a mantis or a gray Bean or

3399
02:39:33,889 --> 02:39:31,859
a tall white or a Nordic or the blue

3400
02:39:35,929 --> 02:39:33,899
beans or you know all that kind of stuff

3401
02:39:36,710 --> 02:39:35,939
so

3402
02:39:38,750 --> 02:39:36,720
um

3403
02:39:40,550 --> 02:39:38,760
it's a pretty powerful conclusion

3404
02:39:43,510 --> 02:39:40,560
because I don't think that's been done

3405
02:39:46,070 --> 02:39:43,520
on mainstream before we're actually

3406
02:39:49,010 --> 02:39:46,080
deciphering what they might look like if

3407
02:39:54,230 --> 02:39:52,790
okay so um oh I wanted to ask you this

3408
02:39:56,270 --> 02:39:54,240
and then we're going to stay right here

3409
02:39:56,929 --> 02:39:56,280
on this subject

3410
02:39:58,330 --> 02:39:56,939
um

3411
02:40:00,950 --> 02:39:58,340
you're you're

3412
02:40:04,190 --> 02:40:00,960
not directing

3413
02:40:08,389 --> 02:40:04,200
right you are the host on UFO witness

3414
02:40:10,690 --> 02:40:08,399
right I'm the host and and and so

3415
02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:10,700
um do you take Direction well

3416
02:40:15,889 --> 02:40:12,960
you know what's funny everyone says that

3417
02:40:17,510 --> 02:40:15,899
to me but I'm pretty cut and dry so if

3418
02:40:19,790 --> 02:40:17,520
I'm not being paid to produce something

3419
02:40:22,370 --> 02:40:19,800
I show up as Talent right what do you

3420
02:40:24,050 --> 02:40:22,380
want me to do and yeah unless it like is

3421
02:40:25,550 --> 02:40:24,060
really against my morals I'm like no I'm

3422
02:40:27,530 --> 02:40:25,560
not going to say that but I'm you know I

3423
02:40:29,570 --> 02:40:27,540
pretty much play ball I mean the only

3424
02:40:32,809 --> 02:40:29,580
thing like my crew will they like laugh

3425
02:40:34,670 --> 02:40:32,819
about now but is that um I really wanted

3426
02:40:36,410 --> 02:40:34,680
to have hair and makeup but that wasn't

3427
02:40:37,730 --> 02:40:36,420
allowed in the show we were probably

3428
02:40:40,070 --> 02:40:37,740
we're just moving around too much it

3429
02:40:41,870 --> 02:40:40,080
didn't make sense but and I wanted a

3430
02:40:44,870 --> 02:40:41,880
Starbucks coffee and that's probably

3431
02:40:46,910 --> 02:40:44,880
about it for like me wanting things but

3432
02:40:48,889 --> 02:40:46,920
other than that like I'm pretty much

3433
02:40:50,690 --> 02:40:48,899
like okay whatever I've signed up for

3434
02:40:52,849 --> 02:40:50,700
this I'm Talent

3435
02:40:54,490 --> 02:40:52,859
you're not playing the diva card I'm

3436
02:40:58,610 --> 02:40:54,500
full Diva

3437
02:40:59,990 --> 02:40:58,620
Devon said I'm difficult I'm just

3438
02:41:01,190 --> 02:41:00,000
difficult

3439
02:41:05,450 --> 02:41:01,200
um so

3440
02:41:07,790 --> 02:41:05,460
um but uh the content for UFO witness

3441
02:41:09,889 --> 02:41:07,800
when you're a host

3442
02:41:14,450 --> 02:41:09,899
um how is that different do you have to

3443
02:41:16,130 --> 02:41:14,460
mold yourself in uh to to the content or

3444
02:41:19,429 --> 02:41:16,140
do you have a little bit of creative

3445
02:41:24,530 --> 02:41:21,410
um so they

3446
02:41:26,510 --> 02:41:24,540
they have um

3447
02:41:27,950 --> 02:41:26,520
a conversation with us that they wanna

3448
02:41:31,070 --> 02:41:27,960
they found some really interesting

3449
02:41:32,990 --> 02:41:31,080
people that they want us to interview

3450
02:41:34,670 --> 02:41:33,000
um and they'll give us an overview of

3451
02:41:37,250 --> 02:41:34,680
what they think is interesting and then

3452
02:41:38,990 --> 02:41:37,260
from there Ben and I just do what we

3453
02:41:41,150 --> 02:41:39,000
would do even if the cameras weren't on

3454
02:41:42,530 --> 02:41:41,160
we would ask those questions and we

3455
02:41:48,290 --> 02:41:42,540
would

3456
02:41:50,389 --> 02:41:48,300
actually saying so uh when

3457
02:41:52,730 --> 02:41:50,399
they prep us a little bit on what they

3458
02:41:54,290 --> 02:41:52,740
think is interesting then once it's we

3459
02:41:55,910 --> 02:41:54,300
start filming they just leave us alone

3460
02:41:58,730 --> 02:41:55,920
like we just go in there as an

3461
02:42:01,330 --> 02:41:58,740
investigation they're a fly on the wall

3462
02:42:05,030 --> 02:42:01,340
um and then we do our work

3463
02:42:09,050 --> 02:42:05,040
yeah I always find that interesting uh

3464
02:42:12,590 --> 02:42:09,060
uh in in doing production work you you

3465
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:12,600
get your stuff done but then after that

3466
02:42:19,550 --> 02:42:15,840
it's in editors you know it's it's the

3467
02:42:23,030 --> 02:42:19,560
producers and the EP and and and that's

3468
02:42:25,790 --> 02:42:23,040
the show you hope for what you know your

3469
02:42:26,750 --> 02:42:25,800
vision is but uh in the end it's up to

3470
02:42:30,410 --> 02:42:26,760
the network

3471
02:42:31,370 --> 02:42:30,420
yeah yeah you uh you know and I know

3472
02:42:33,830 --> 02:42:31,380
that

3473
02:42:35,150 --> 02:42:33,840
um because I work with the networks all

3474
02:42:38,270 --> 02:42:35,160
the time so I'm not going to win any

3475
02:42:39,830 --> 02:42:38,280
battle because somebody I mean I hate to

3476
02:42:41,030 --> 02:42:39,840
say this but somebody cares what I think

3477
02:42:43,010 --> 02:42:41,040
you know like at the network like

3478
02:42:44,270 --> 02:42:43,020
they're trying to make a show I mean I

3479
02:42:46,130 --> 02:42:44,280
definitely

3480
02:42:48,770 --> 02:42:46,140
um there were some times where I kind of

3481
02:42:50,150 --> 02:42:48,780
inserted myself of of you know you

3482
02:42:51,230 --> 02:42:50,160
should you should maybe probably do it

3483
02:42:52,429 --> 02:42:51,240
this way because you're gonna get a lot

3484
02:42:54,530 --> 02:42:52,439
of people that are not gonna agree with

3485
02:42:57,950 --> 02:42:54,540
you and you and you you know you want

3486
02:42:59,090 --> 02:42:57,960
your viewers to like it but but um but I

3487
02:43:02,090 --> 02:42:59,100
thought that you know I thought our team

3488
02:43:04,309 --> 02:43:02,100
was great and um it is really hard to do

3489
02:43:06,170 --> 02:43:04,319
an alien show because

3490
02:43:07,670 --> 02:43:06,180
I think with ghosts and stuff you have

3491
02:43:09,530 --> 02:43:07,680
you set all your technology up and

3492
02:43:11,630 --> 02:43:09,540
you're you go into a haunted house and

3493
02:43:14,389 --> 02:43:11,640
you're like ooh right and everyone loves

3494
02:43:16,490 --> 02:43:14,399
the shock Factor but with aliens you're

3495
02:43:19,010 --> 02:43:16,500
you're really investigating people's

3496
02:43:21,770 --> 02:43:19,020
experiences and and and you're trying to

3497
02:43:23,330 --> 02:43:21,780
see if you believe that person and then

3498
02:43:25,130 --> 02:43:23,340
of course you're looking for evidence do

3499
02:43:27,050 --> 02:43:25,140
they have implants in their body do they

3500
02:43:28,610 --> 02:43:27,060
is there something in their backyard do

3501
02:43:31,370 --> 02:43:28,620
they have pictures you know all that

3502
02:43:35,630 --> 02:43:31,380
kind of stuff so it's a it's a slower

3503
02:43:37,370 --> 02:43:35,640
drawn-out mysterious process uh and uh

3504
02:43:41,210 --> 02:43:37,380
as a filmmaker

3505
02:43:45,230 --> 02:43:41,220
it that's got to be hard to to film you

3506
02:43:48,770 --> 02:43:45,240
know what uh uh resident alien uh uh

3507
02:43:51,170 --> 02:43:48,780
there was a a comment I think on the

3508
02:43:53,090 --> 02:43:51,180
last episode of the episode before it's

3509
02:43:54,950 --> 02:43:53,100
a comedy it's great I love it right but

3510
02:43:58,730 --> 02:43:54,960
there was this

3511
02:44:02,389 --> 02:43:58,740
so he goes uh the alien right he goes

3512
02:44:05,570 --> 02:44:02,399
um so this is what I'm going to do

3513
02:44:08,929 --> 02:44:05,580
I'm going to take the implants out of

3514
02:44:12,130 --> 02:44:08,939
the humans that the graves put in and

3515
02:44:15,910 --> 02:44:12,140
I'm gonna put them back into the Grays

3516
02:44:20,150 --> 02:44:15,920
and confuse them

3517
02:44:23,630 --> 02:44:20,160
but would that be funny it was somebody

3518
02:44:26,630 --> 02:44:23,640
uh the writers for that show are

3519
02:44:27,950 --> 02:44:26,640
brilliant right they they they're a part

3520
02:44:30,190 --> 02:44:27,960
of this community they're probably

3521
02:44:34,910 --> 02:44:30,200
listening to fade to black right now

3522
02:44:37,370 --> 02:44:34,920
and there's there's crazy comments uh

3523
02:44:39,349 --> 02:44:37,380
throughout they've got a guide there's a

3524
02:44:42,730 --> 02:44:39,359
character in there they call the alien

3525
02:44:47,990 --> 02:44:45,530
sound a little familiar we know who that

3526
02:44:51,770 --> 02:44:48,000
is yeah and and I thought about that too

3527
02:44:54,770 --> 02:44:51,780
you know so how far uh and he he even

3528
02:44:56,809 --> 02:44:54,780
looks like Daryl by the way he's dressed

3529
02:44:58,969 --> 02:44:56,819
in black and and the whole thing oh my

3530
02:45:00,830 --> 02:44:58,979
God he's full-on Cowboy I love it yeah

3531
02:45:03,050 --> 02:45:00,840
yeah yeah yeah oh yeah yeah you need to

3532
02:45:05,210 --> 02:45:03,060
watch it but but but there's also

3533
02:45:08,510 --> 02:45:05,220
something going on here

3534
02:45:11,630 --> 02:45:08,520
um with those types of comments where it

3535
02:45:15,290 --> 02:45:11,640
may be a comedy Melissa but it's the

3536
02:45:17,690 --> 02:45:15,300
media taking control of of of of of of

3537
02:45:19,190 --> 02:45:17,700
this story and what is going on out

3538
02:45:20,929 --> 02:45:19,200
there there's there's too many little

3539
02:45:24,050 --> 02:45:20,939
things in there where they are

3540
02:45:26,570 --> 02:45:24,060
definitely aware of this community and

3541
02:45:28,610 --> 02:45:26,580
they are listening and getting ideas uh

3542
02:45:31,010 --> 02:45:28,620
to present to the rest of the world the

3543
02:45:33,290 --> 02:45:31,020
people that are watching a show like

3544
02:45:34,910 --> 02:45:33,300
resident alien they're not listening to

3545
02:45:36,770 --> 02:45:34,920
fade to black that's not my core

3546
02:45:40,849 --> 02:45:36,780
audience that's the you know that's

3547
02:45:43,190 --> 02:45:40,859
that's the masses right that are that

3548
02:45:46,429 --> 02:45:43,200
are watching that show that have no idea

3549
02:45:48,590 --> 02:45:46,439
what Coast to Coast or Gaia or or Fade

3550
02:45:52,370 --> 02:45:48,600
to Black or anything no they're not

3551
02:45:55,429 --> 02:45:52,380
they're getting their their knowledge uh

3552
02:45:58,790 --> 02:45:55,439
from a comedy show and the comedy shows

3553
02:46:02,570 --> 02:45:58,800
got the Nega the Nuggets of of reality

3554
02:46:03,410 --> 02:46:02,580
in it it's fascinating to see what I

3555
02:46:06,309 --> 02:46:03,420
wanted to

3556
02:46:11,110 --> 02:46:06,319
go back to so these eight species

3557
02:46:15,050 --> 02:46:11,120
uh visiting the Earth there has to be

3558
02:46:16,490 --> 02:46:15,060
the same Consciousness tap in that we've

3559
02:46:19,849 --> 02:46:16,500
been talking about in the show between

3560
02:46:21,410 --> 02:46:19,859
us and them and and I think that there

3561
02:46:22,790 --> 02:46:21,420
are

3562
02:46:26,990 --> 02:46:22,800
um a lot of people out there myself

3563
02:46:30,530 --> 02:46:27,000
included that have made some type of uh

3564
02:46:32,469 --> 02:46:30,540
of mind to mind entanglement

3565
02:46:35,929 --> 02:46:32,479
physical connection

3566
02:46:38,210 --> 02:46:35,939
where it's it's beyond coincidence when

3567
02:46:39,710 --> 02:46:38,220
these things happen are you aware of

3568
02:46:42,050 --> 02:46:39,720
that and you think that that's what that

3569
02:46:45,469 --> 02:46:42,060
is it's it's we're all on the same

3570
02:46:48,190 --> 02:46:46,250
um

3571
02:46:53,389 --> 02:46:48,200
yes and

3572
02:46:55,910 --> 02:46:53,399
are aware of it are definitely logged

3573
02:46:57,950 --> 02:46:55,920
into that Network and people that aren't

3574
02:46:59,389 --> 02:46:57,960
aware of but they're things that are

3575
02:47:01,610 --> 02:46:59,399
happening to them that it's not that

3576
02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:01,620
they're unconnected to the network but

3577
02:47:05,690 --> 02:47:03,600
they're not necessarily

3578
02:47:08,150 --> 02:47:05,700
understanding how it's working there's

3579
02:47:09,170 --> 02:47:08,160
just things are happening to them

3580
02:47:12,050 --> 02:47:09,180
um

3581
02:47:13,849 --> 02:47:12,060
and uh I think that if you're

3582
02:47:15,950 --> 02:47:13,859
intentional I mean we see this all the

3583
02:47:17,210 --> 02:47:15,960
time with ce5s someone just interviewed

3584
02:47:19,010 --> 02:47:17,220
me the other day and they asked me would

3585
02:47:20,270 --> 02:47:19,020
you do you think ce5s are real and I

3586
02:47:21,590 --> 02:47:20,280
said well

3587
02:47:22,849 --> 02:47:21,600
we just said you know we were talking

3588
02:47:24,590 --> 02:47:22,859
about this earlier for thousands of

3589
02:47:26,389 --> 02:47:24,600
years people have been in contact with

3590
02:47:28,790 --> 02:47:26,399
something through some kind of deep

3591
02:47:31,070 --> 02:47:28,800
meditation or plant medicine or

3592
02:47:32,630 --> 02:47:31,080
something so I think that they're

3593
02:47:34,550 --> 02:47:32,640
definitely interacting with somebody and

3594
02:47:36,110 --> 02:47:34,560
if you something and if you are

3595
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:36,120
intentional

3596
02:47:42,410 --> 02:47:39,120
then you can direct your energy to make

3597
02:47:44,270 --> 02:47:42,420
contact with whatever that could be now

3598
02:47:46,070 --> 02:47:44,280
with the case with

3599
02:47:48,290 --> 02:47:46,080
abductions and I'm sure you've had a lot

3600
02:47:51,650 --> 02:47:48,300
of people on your show who have had this

3601
02:47:54,170 --> 02:47:51,660
happen they tell their story like look I

3602
02:47:56,510 --> 02:47:54,180
I didn't believe in aliens I just I'm a

3603
02:47:58,490 --> 02:47:56,520
normal person walking around my day and

3604
02:48:00,230 --> 02:47:58,500
then all of a sudden I'm being abducted

3605
02:48:01,730 --> 02:48:00,240
at night and my genetic material is

3606
02:48:03,230 --> 02:48:01,740
taken so then you're thinking okay well

3607
02:48:05,270 --> 02:48:03,240
that person has not been intentional

3608
02:48:07,070 --> 02:48:05,280
with this contact so why are they being

3609
02:48:11,030 --> 02:48:07,080
contacted

3610
02:48:14,630 --> 02:48:11,040
I think that they have that goes back to

3611
02:48:16,730 --> 02:48:14,640
that whole DNA conversation where you

3612
02:48:19,130 --> 02:48:16,740
get into the idea that there's something

3613
02:48:22,610 --> 02:48:19,140
in their DNA makeup where they're a

3614
02:48:24,830 --> 02:48:22,620
conduit which is different than existing

3615
02:48:27,230 --> 02:48:24,840
in the network and being intentional in

3616
02:48:30,110 --> 02:48:27,240
the network this person is somehow a

3617
02:48:31,429 --> 02:48:30,120
conduit for things to reach them so if I

3618
02:48:33,170 --> 02:48:31,439
was an alien species in another

3619
02:48:35,330 --> 02:48:33,180
dimension and I'm trying to find

3620
02:48:37,250 --> 02:48:35,340
something to reach out to

3621
02:48:38,630 --> 02:48:37,260
I would probably be able to find

3622
02:48:41,210 --> 02:48:38,640
something I mean just think about this

3623
02:48:43,429 --> 02:48:41,220
in a computer data system right you're

3624
02:48:45,170 --> 02:48:43,439
searching for something and a number

3625
02:48:46,790 --> 02:48:45,180
comes up and you're like Okay click

3626
02:48:48,830 --> 02:48:46,800
right that's kind of how I feel about

3627
02:48:51,889 --> 02:48:48,840
these people with um

3628
02:48:54,050 --> 02:48:51,899
that just randomly get picked to have

3629
02:48:56,510 --> 02:48:54,060
these experiments done to them basically

3630
02:48:57,889 --> 02:48:56,520
that's what abductions seem to me

3631
02:49:00,290 --> 02:48:57,899
so I think there's like three parts

3632
02:49:01,969 --> 02:49:00,300
there's awareness there's non-awareness

3633
02:49:04,190 --> 02:49:01,979
and then there's people that are almost

3634
02:49:05,990 --> 02:49:04,200
conduits within the system to experience

3635
02:49:07,630 --> 02:49:06,000
things coming through them or coming to

3636
02:49:12,349 --> 02:49:07,640
them

3637
02:49:17,270 --> 02:49:15,230
I think that or anybody that meditates

3638
02:49:20,750 --> 02:49:17,280
but you specifically

3639
02:49:22,490 --> 02:49:20,760
um you are aware of

3640
02:49:25,070 --> 02:49:22,500
um something else whether it's another

3641
02:49:29,330 --> 02:49:25,080
dimension another reality a parallel

3642
02:49:31,969 --> 02:49:29,340
world but you you're you uh you are able

3643
02:49:35,210 --> 02:49:31,979
to tap into and see and feel something

3644
02:49:36,530 --> 02:49:35,220
that is different than when you open up

3645
02:49:39,250 --> 02:49:36,540
your eyes and you come out of the

3646
02:49:44,270 --> 02:49:39,260
meditation now you're back into the 3D

3647
02:49:48,950 --> 02:49:44,280
uh reality right right is that is is

3648
02:49:51,110 --> 02:49:48,960
that evidence of uh the Multiverse a

3649
02:49:53,090 --> 02:49:51,120
parallel world another dimension and

3650
02:49:55,610 --> 02:49:53,100
certainly something that E.T would have

3651
02:49:58,870 --> 02:49:55,620
to be aware of too and is that

3652
02:50:01,969 --> 02:49:58,880
meditative State uh the the go between

3653
02:50:04,130 --> 02:50:01,979
where those connections are made

3654
02:50:06,230 --> 02:50:04,140
and you talked about plant-based you

3655
02:50:07,730 --> 02:50:06,240
know connections too as well and I think

3656
02:50:10,010 --> 02:50:07,740
that this would suggest that same thing

3657
02:50:11,210 --> 02:50:10,020
yeah

3658
02:50:12,469 --> 02:50:11,220
I mean that go that

3659
02:50:13,309 --> 02:50:12,479
go back to the studies they've done on

3660
02:50:14,809 --> 02:50:13,319
the pineal

3661
02:50:17,270 --> 02:50:14,819
getting the receiver in the in the radio

3662
02:50:18,710 --> 02:50:17,280
system in your head right

3663
02:50:22,130 --> 02:50:18,720
um

3664
02:50:23,690 --> 02:50:22,140
I think that if you are open then you

3665
02:50:27,590 --> 02:50:23,700
are definitely

3666
02:50:29,270 --> 02:50:27,600
activating that into that system and

3667
02:50:31,610 --> 02:50:29,280
um I think the greatest meditations if

3668
02:50:33,889 --> 02:50:31,620
you can get into a deep space

3669
02:50:36,889 --> 02:50:33,899
I think what you really need to be

3670
02:50:39,950 --> 02:50:36,899
searching for is your higher self not

3671
02:50:41,570 --> 02:50:39,960
anything else because that'll that'll

3672
02:50:43,969 --> 02:50:41,580
teach you enough about what you need to

3673
02:50:45,410 --> 02:50:43,979
learn in the universe I think it's it's

3674
02:50:48,050 --> 02:50:45,420
like um

3675
02:50:49,250 --> 02:50:48,060
it's like being a human and constantly

3676
02:50:51,110 --> 02:50:49,260
looking for other people to tell you

3677
02:50:52,370 --> 02:50:51,120
what to do I mean I don't want a bunch

3678
02:50:54,830 --> 02:50:52,380
of aliens in my head I don't know about

3679
02:51:01,250 --> 02:50:58,130
yeah that's always my biggest fear we

3680
02:51:05,570 --> 02:51:01,260
can talk about this and and entanglement

3681
02:51:08,690 --> 02:51:05,580
or telepathy or mind meld and all I I

3682
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:08,700
don't want to I have a I like going to a

3683
02:51:12,650 --> 02:51:10,800
party with a couple hundred people or

3684
02:51:14,750 --> 02:51:12,660
speaking at a conference you know or

3685
02:51:18,050 --> 02:51:14,760
whatever but I'm at least in control

3686
02:51:20,929 --> 02:51:18,060
what I can interact with right yeah but

3687
02:51:22,330 --> 02:51:20,939
exactly if you go into that crowded room

3688
02:51:25,250 --> 02:51:22,340
right

3689
02:51:29,270 --> 02:51:25,260
and everybody has access to me as well

3690
02:51:30,830 --> 02:51:29,280
right nope no not at all so that brings

3691
02:51:32,030 --> 02:51:30,840
up the point of okay well if you're

3692
02:51:33,530 --> 02:51:32,040
trying to get a hold of your higher self

3693
02:51:35,330 --> 02:51:33,540
like what does that even mean I mean

3694
02:51:37,550 --> 02:51:35,340
that just sounds like okay like the

3695
02:51:40,610 --> 02:51:37,560
better part of yourself it would be you

3696
02:51:42,770 --> 02:51:40,620
and other dimensions of existence that

3697
02:51:44,690 --> 02:51:42,780
would be able to access knowledge in

3698
02:51:47,210 --> 02:51:44,700
that dimension of existence

3699
02:51:49,250 --> 02:51:47,220
I mean the use universe is infinite so

3700
02:51:51,410 --> 02:51:49,260
if you're tapping into yourself in

3701
02:51:54,170 --> 02:51:51,420
different versions of time and space

3702
02:51:55,670 --> 02:51:54,180
right that's where you learn the most

3703
02:51:58,389 --> 02:51:55,680
about the universe and that's where

3704
02:52:01,550 --> 02:51:58,399
think about the greatest scientists

3705
02:52:03,050 --> 02:52:01,560
musicians artists in the like they all

3706
02:52:04,309 --> 02:52:03,060
talk about how they're connected to

3707
02:52:07,190 --> 02:52:04,319
something

3708
02:52:08,450 --> 02:52:07,200
otherworldly I'm not saying it's aliens

3709
02:52:09,710 --> 02:52:08,460
um

3710
02:52:11,450 --> 02:52:09,720
I just felt like I was going to say a

3711
02:52:12,310 --> 02:52:11,460
Giorgio line there for a second I almost

3712
02:52:14,530 --> 02:52:12,320
caught myself

3713
02:52:21,110 --> 02:52:14,540
[Laughter]

3714
02:52:23,870 --> 02:52:21,120
so there was uh uh a director of note uh

3715
02:52:26,990 --> 02:52:23,880
that you and I both know a couple of

3716
02:52:28,250 --> 02:52:27,000
years ago he calls me up out of the blue

3717
02:52:30,230 --> 02:52:28,260
Jimmy

3718
02:52:34,550 --> 02:52:30,240
so what's up man

3719
02:52:36,610 --> 02:52:34,560
I smoke DMT last night I said oh really

3720
02:52:38,929 --> 02:52:36,620
really

3721
02:52:42,969 --> 02:52:38,939
aliens are real

3722
02:52:46,130 --> 02:52:42,979
I said okay what what he said man

3723
02:52:48,469 --> 02:52:46,140
I sat and talked

3724
02:52:51,410 --> 02:52:48,479
to two aliens

3725
02:52:53,330 --> 02:52:51,420
I said for how long for about 15 minutes

3726
02:52:55,190 --> 02:52:53,340
I said okay and

3727
02:52:59,630 --> 02:52:55,200
it's real

3728
02:53:02,809 --> 02:52:59,640
you can go into this other world

3729
02:53:05,030 --> 02:53:02,819
and it's real I said what are you trying

3730
02:53:08,809 --> 02:53:05,040
to say he said man it scared the crap

3731
02:53:12,469 --> 02:53:08,819
out of me I had no control I went there

3732
02:53:13,790 --> 02:53:12,479
it was another world I talked to two

3733
02:53:16,490 --> 02:53:13,800
aliens

3734
02:53:19,010 --> 02:53:16,500
and then I left

3735
02:53:21,710 --> 02:53:19,020
I said I said would you would you would

3736
02:53:23,809 --> 02:53:21,720
you do it again he goes

3737
02:53:30,050 --> 02:53:23,819
no

3738
02:53:31,929 --> 02:53:30,060
experience in New York City late at

3739
02:53:35,090 --> 02:53:31,939
night

3740
02:53:36,830 --> 02:53:35,100
have have you have you done the DMT

3741
02:53:38,210 --> 02:53:36,840
thing

3742
02:53:40,370 --> 02:53:38,220
actually no

3743
02:53:43,730 --> 02:53:40,380
no would you

3744
02:53:48,469 --> 02:53:45,950
I was pretty open to things but I'm I'm

3745
02:53:49,969 --> 02:53:48,479
just I feel like my meditations are

3746
02:53:52,510 --> 02:53:49,979
super powerful I go to super weird

3747
02:53:55,190 --> 02:53:52,520
places and I get amazing

3748
02:53:56,330 --> 02:53:55,200
downloads of weird stuff that I kind of

3749
02:54:00,410 --> 02:53:56,340
don't want to mess it up with anything

3750
02:54:03,110 --> 02:54:00,420
else right right right I mean I've tried

3751
02:54:06,050 --> 02:54:03,120
Ayahuasca I've done oh you have a bunch

3752
02:54:07,910 --> 02:54:06,060
like I mean I I like I used to love all

3753
02:54:09,110 --> 02:54:07,920
that stuff but then I just got to a

3754
02:54:10,670 --> 02:54:09,120
point where I'm like well I kind of

3755
02:54:12,950 --> 02:54:10,680
don't need that like and I feel like

3756
02:54:14,090 --> 02:54:12,960
plant medicine is the gateway to what

3757
02:54:15,349 --> 02:54:14,100
you're supposed to do is have the

3758
02:54:17,450 --> 02:54:15,359
experience and be and then train

3759
02:54:18,769 --> 02:54:17,460
yourself to do it without it that's the

3760
02:54:20,990 --> 02:54:18,779
whole purpose when people just keep

3761
02:54:22,670 --> 02:54:21,000
doing it so I'm just at this point where

3762
02:54:24,710 --> 02:54:22,680
I'm like okay well

3763
02:54:27,530 --> 02:54:24,720
I'm pretty good at having trippy

3764
02:54:29,570 --> 02:54:27,540
experiences without any drugs

3765
02:54:31,070 --> 02:54:29,580
can I ask you I know it's a personal

3766
02:54:32,150 --> 02:54:31,080
thing but

3767
02:54:34,490 --> 02:54:32,160
um uh

3768
02:54:37,190 --> 02:54:34,500
uh when you did the ceremony

3769
02:54:41,090 --> 02:54:37,200
Ayahuasca uh did you did you meet the

3770
02:54:43,130 --> 02:54:41,100
goddess did you have a conversation

3771
02:54:47,090 --> 02:54:43,140
no I did not meet the goddess that

3772
02:54:51,769 --> 02:54:49,849
I did see a lot of weird stuff like I

3773
02:54:56,210 --> 02:54:51,779
felt like I was just flying out in space

3774
02:55:02,929 --> 02:54:57,530
um

3775
02:55:04,610 --> 02:55:02,939
some people experienced this there was

3776
02:55:06,230 --> 02:55:04,620
like this Bliss moment

3777
02:55:09,290 --> 02:55:06,240
of like

3778
02:55:11,030 --> 02:55:09,300
all these colors and everything and then

3779
02:55:12,050 --> 02:55:11,040
it was just like the darkness came in

3780
02:55:14,090 --> 02:55:12,060
hard

3781
02:55:15,889 --> 02:55:14,100
and it was it was like all these

3782
02:55:17,150 --> 02:55:15,899
feelings and emotions and I felt like I

3783
02:55:19,190 --> 02:55:17,160
was living I was going through maybe

3784
02:55:22,309 --> 02:55:19,200
some past trauma of some life I'd never

3785
02:55:24,950 --> 02:55:22,319
even lived before and it just was it was

3786
02:55:27,650 --> 02:55:24,960
difficult and it was hard but then after

3787
02:55:29,929 --> 02:55:27,660
like I left went on with my daily life

3788
02:55:31,429 --> 02:55:29,939
and I for some reason I felt like a

3789
02:55:35,389 --> 02:55:31,439
complete release even though when I

3790
02:55:38,030 --> 02:55:36,769
some reason I was like you know what

3791
02:55:39,230 --> 02:55:38,040
it's all good everything's fine

3792
02:55:41,450 --> 02:55:39,240
everything's gonna work out that was

3793
02:55:43,610 --> 02:55:41,460
that was great got that done behind me

3794
02:55:50,170 --> 02:55:43,620
right right

3795
02:55:52,849 --> 02:55:50,180
um so many have talked about uh this is

3796
02:55:55,849 --> 02:55:52,859
what science has been pursuing for a

3797
02:55:58,790 --> 02:55:55,859
very long time to find evidence of a of

3798
02:56:02,030 --> 02:55:58,800
a parallel world or an extra Dimension

3799
02:56:04,269 --> 02:56:02,040
beyond the four that we have it and uh

3800
02:56:09,769 --> 02:56:04,279
that this needs to be researched further

3801
02:56:12,230 --> 02:56:09,779
and the the people that come back from

3802
02:56:15,410 --> 02:56:12,240
these experiences

3803
02:56:19,130 --> 02:56:15,420
um independently verify this that you

3804
02:56:21,830 --> 02:56:19,140
are this is an LSD this isn't this no

3805
02:56:25,309 --> 02:56:21,840
this is something else altogether where

3806
02:56:27,950 --> 02:56:25,319
you are accessing this

3807
02:56:31,250 --> 02:56:27,960
um other dimension is is is that what

3808
02:56:32,929 --> 02:56:31,260
you came away and here you know what I

3809
02:56:34,429 --> 02:56:32,939
mean yeah like those layers of

3810
02:56:36,650 --> 02:56:34,439
Consciousness I was talking about that

3811
02:56:37,969 --> 02:56:36,660
like we barely understand damn but like

3812
02:56:39,410 --> 02:56:37,979
we were just talking about plants and

3813
02:56:40,490 --> 02:56:39,420
we're talking about humans and you know

3814
02:56:41,450 --> 02:56:40,500
then we were talking about aliens but

3815
02:56:43,730 --> 02:56:41,460
think about all those different

3816
02:56:46,130 --> 02:56:43,740
Consciousness bubbles you're just

3817
02:56:49,490 --> 02:56:46,140
accessing different layers of of that

3818
02:56:51,650 --> 02:56:49,500
existence I mean I am I don't I didn't

3819
02:56:54,309 --> 02:56:51,660
see any aliens or anything but I

3820
02:56:57,349 --> 02:56:54,319
definitely accessed a deep

3821
02:56:59,809 --> 02:56:57,359
subconsciousness of humanity for sure

3822
02:57:03,349 --> 02:56:59,819
yeah I don't know I don't know if I have

3823
02:57:05,150 --> 02:57:03,359
an ayahuasca ceremony in me

3824
02:57:07,370 --> 02:57:05,160
um at this point of my life right and

3825
02:57:10,849 --> 02:57:07,380
that was one of you at this stage right

3826
02:57:13,429 --> 02:57:10,859
yeah I'm kind of like in 10 years ago 20

3827
02:57:18,110 --> 02:57:13,439
years ago 25 years ago different

3828
02:57:21,889 --> 02:57:18,120
situation today probably not but DMT is

3829
02:57:24,730 --> 02:57:21,899
a 15 minute in and out right so I'm kind

3830
02:57:29,929 --> 02:57:24,740
of okay with that but here's the thing

3831
02:57:32,450 --> 02:57:29,939
do I need the experience right this

3832
02:57:35,090 --> 02:57:32,460
isn't a recreational funny haha thing

3833
02:57:37,969 --> 02:57:35,100
right this isn't smoking pot or or

3834
02:57:42,250 --> 02:57:37,979
drinking shots of vodka this is they're

3835
02:57:45,710 --> 02:57:42,260
doing helium yeah right right whip it

3836
02:57:47,690 --> 02:57:45,720
no that's not what and it shouldn't be

3837
02:57:49,790 --> 02:57:47,700
treated like that this is not a

3838
02:57:52,309 --> 02:57:49,800
recreational thing this is not funny ha

3839
02:57:53,929 --> 02:57:52,319
ha stuff yeah that's a whole nother

3840
02:57:56,510 --> 02:57:53,939
topic that you could talk that's going

3841
02:57:58,910 --> 02:57:56,520
to come out very soon I think uh people

3842
02:58:00,170 --> 02:57:58,920
are just like there's just all these

3843
02:58:01,910 --> 02:58:00,180
people like going over to people's

3844
02:58:03,530 --> 02:58:01,920
apartments and doing Ayahuasca like the

3845
02:58:05,030 --> 02:58:03,540
whole thing is supposed to be a ceremony

3846
02:58:08,450 --> 02:58:05,040
with someone who's supposed to guide you

3847
02:58:10,429 --> 02:58:08,460
to an interdimensional plane and and now

3848
02:58:12,230 --> 02:58:10,439
people are are just doing this and

3849
02:58:13,790 --> 02:58:12,240
blowing away their auric field and

3850
02:58:16,190 --> 02:58:13,800
getting lots of attachments and

3851
02:58:18,769 --> 02:58:16,200
weirdness happening to them afterwards I

3852
02:58:20,570 --> 02:58:18,779
think there's not enough education about

3853
02:58:22,429 --> 02:58:20,580
it there's just like an exploration of

3854
02:58:25,010 --> 02:58:22,439
it which is amazing I don't think people

3855
02:58:27,290 --> 02:58:25,020
should not explore but but the process

3856
02:58:29,389 --> 02:58:27,300
of of of what it's supposed to represent

3857
02:58:32,210 --> 02:58:29,399
has been lost and I and I guarantee in

3858
02:58:34,790 --> 02:58:32,220
the next year that'll come out that kind

3859
02:58:37,490 --> 02:58:34,800
of backlash I agree with you you know a

3860
02:58:39,590 --> 02:58:37,500
bunch of fraternity Bros right on a

3861
02:58:42,410 --> 02:58:39,600
plane dude we're going to Ecuador man

3862
02:58:45,530 --> 02:58:42,420
we're gonna go do ayahuasca

3863
02:58:48,230 --> 02:58:45,540
party and and they come back from that

3864
02:58:51,650 --> 02:58:48,240
and go well well what did you expect

3865
02:58:54,950 --> 02:58:51,660
this is a this is a this is a ceremony

3866
02:58:58,550 --> 02:58:54,960
this isn't you know hey man you got the

3867
02:59:00,349 --> 02:58:58,560
keg you know to bring it to the Jungle

3868
02:59:03,230 --> 02:59:00,359
when we do the ceremony no that's not

3869
02:59:04,849 --> 02:59:03,240
what it's about no and you were going to

3870
02:59:06,950 --> 02:59:04,859
see a side of yourself that you're

3871
02:59:08,750 --> 02:59:06,960
probably not going to like if you are

3872
02:59:12,170 --> 02:59:08,760
approaching it like that

3873
02:59:15,410 --> 02:59:12,180
greed agreed agreed you gotta be careful

3874
02:59:17,510 --> 02:59:15,420
yeah Melissa what a great conversation I

3875
02:59:21,290 --> 02:59:17,520
I can't believe we waited almost a

3876
02:59:23,809 --> 02:59:21,300
decade I know so but we will do it again

3877
02:59:25,730 --> 02:59:23,819
very soon and we've got lots of other

3878
02:59:27,410 --> 02:59:25,740
stuff that we're doing

3879
02:59:28,730 --> 02:59:27,420
um just thank you so much and thank you

3880
02:59:30,650 --> 02:59:28,740
for

3881
02:59:32,570 --> 02:59:30,660
um your immeasurable amount of

3882
02:59:34,429 --> 02:59:32,580
contributions to this community keep

3883
02:59:37,510 --> 02:59:34,439
doing what you're doing oh thank you

3884
02:59:42,230 --> 02:59:37,520
Jimmy thanks for having me on and

3885
02:59:46,790 --> 02:59:45,469
I know I know totally uh malicious links

3886
02:59:50,030 --> 02:59:46,800
are below

3887
02:59:51,950 --> 02:59:50,040
um she's she's out there so uh if you

3888
02:59:54,170 --> 02:59:51,960
need to reach out she can but you'll be

3889
02:59:56,870 --> 02:59:54,180
able to follow everything uh that she is

3890
02:59:59,330 --> 02:59:56,880
doing and working on and of course uh

3891
03:00:02,090 --> 02:59:59,340
UFO witness too as well okay thank you

3892
03:00:03,769 --> 03:00:02,100
so much Melissa you hate him be well all

3893
03:00:05,809 --> 03:00:03,779
right you too have a good night

3894
03:00:08,929 --> 03:00:05,819
good night what a great conversation

3895
03:00:11,929 --> 03:00:08,939
thank you Melissa and uh what a great

3896
03:00:15,050 --> 03:00:11,939
way to wrap up uh this week here on Fade

3897
03:00:18,769 --> 03:00:15,060
to Black uh three great nights three

3898
03:00:21,590 --> 03:00:18,779
amazing amazing Minds we're on Fade to

3899
03:00:24,710 --> 03:00:21,600
Black this week and uh tomorrow night is

3900
03:00:25,990 --> 03:00:24,720
another fader night with open lines all

3901
03:00:28,910 --> 03:00:26,000
night long

3902
03:00:31,670 --> 03:00:28,920
ooh man what a week what a great

3903
03:00:33,950 --> 03:00:31,680
conversation tonight so much to

3904
03:00:38,269 --> 03:00:33,960
um this is the thing

3905
03:00:41,330 --> 03:00:38,279
um uh when it comes to Melissa and

3906
03:00:43,190 --> 03:00:41,340
others like her in her community and I'm

3907
03:00:46,490 --> 03:00:43,200
talking about the directors The

3908
03:00:49,010 --> 03:00:46,500
Producers the writers the journalists

3909
03:00:51,530 --> 03:00:49,020
um we we talked tonight about uh the

3910
03:00:54,590 --> 03:00:51,540
Nazca mummies that was uh it still is

3911
03:00:58,070 --> 03:00:54,600
and should be a very very big deal it

3912
03:01:03,830 --> 03:00:58,080
was Melissa that flew down to Peru and

3913
03:01:06,290 --> 03:01:03,840
and touched those mummies and uh brought

3914
03:01:08,990 --> 03:01:06,300
the stuff uh the

3915
03:01:11,929 --> 03:01:09,000
um the x-rays back to the United States

3916
03:01:15,110 --> 03:01:11,939
uh for other professionals to take a

3917
03:01:17,809 --> 03:01:15,120
look that was Melissa and that is her

3918
03:01:20,330 --> 03:01:17,819
commitment to this community she's she's

3919
03:01:22,490 --> 03:01:20,340
unreal she sent me

3920
03:01:24,410 --> 03:01:22,500
um uh I've got to get out of here I've

3921
03:01:26,389 --> 03:01:24,420
only got a few seconds left

3922
03:01:28,849 --> 03:01:26,399
I can't I don't want to say too much

3923
03:01:32,330 --> 03:01:28,859
about this but anyway so she sent me uh

3924
03:01:34,610 --> 03:01:32,340
some some interesting points that she

3925
03:01:37,969 --> 03:01:34,620
wanted to work on and she said this list

3926
03:01:40,670 --> 03:01:37,979
of stuff I went this is what you're into

3927
03:01:43,130 --> 03:01:40,680
right now and I couldn't talk about it

3928
03:01:47,750 --> 03:01:43,140
tonight on the show but it was so deep

3929
03:01:51,469 --> 03:01:47,760
uh philosophical science physics related

3930
03:01:53,809 --> 03:01:51,479
um but very deep and profound uh

3931
03:01:57,830 --> 03:01:53,819
subjects and that's what she's out there

3932
03:01:59,570 --> 03:01:57,840
doing she is really really trying to

3933
03:02:01,849 --> 03:01:59,580
collect this knowledge and that is

3934
03:02:04,010 --> 03:02:01,859
Melissa Tittle Melissa thank you so much

3935
03:02:05,990 --> 03:02:04,020
what a great what a great amazing

3936
03:02:07,670 --> 03:02:06,000
conversation tonight and tomorrow night

3937
03:02:11,090 --> 03:02:07,680
we'll follow everything up it's been a

3938
03:02:13,550 --> 03:02:11,100
busy week here in uh the community lots

3939
03:02:15,769 --> 03:02:13,560
of stuff to talk about tomorrow night on

3940
03:02:17,650 --> 03:02:15,779
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3941
03:02:20,210 --> 03:02:17,660
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3942
03:02:22,490 --> 03:02:20,220
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3943
03:02:26,710 --> 03:02:22,500
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3944
03:02:29,929 --> 03:02:26,720
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3945
03:02:32,510 --> 03:02:29,939
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3946
03:02:36,550 --> 03:02:32,520
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3947
03:02:39,050 --> 03:02:36,560
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3948
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03:02:44,990 --> 03:02:42,120
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3950
03:02:46,370 --> 03:02:45,000
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3951
03:02:47,809 --> 03:02:46,380
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3952
03:02:49,790 --> 03:02:47,819
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3953
03:02:51,469 --> 03:02:49,800
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3954
03:02:53,750 --> 03:02:51,479
church until tomorrow night with Fay

3955
03:02:55,730 --> 03:02:53,760
tonight open lines all night long I want

3956
03:02:59,550 --> 03:02:55,740
everybody to be safe

3957
03:03:12,710 --> 03:02:59,560
go back Lee tappy

3958
03:03:38,870 --> 03:03:24,100
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